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Email your MP - Social Housing for Ex Servicemen

firestorm, you might be right, but unless we try to get this changed we will continue to be third class citizens in the very country we have served. There are more and more injured and dead soldiers coming home to a country that doesn't care about them or their families. If we press this issue, and many others in the face's of those that believe they're worthy to called our Political Masters. Then we will be heard.

Hitback
 
Wales is one of the worst affected area's with this legislation, and it will not be in the interest of those that will be serving there in the near future under the new Defence Move. Thank you for your support and I hope your MP replies to your request.

Hitback
 
Done my biit and signed the petition. Also e-mailed my MP (for Moray) and am awaiting his response.
 
The following is an email I sent to the DCLG on the date show. I have requested information on the area's stated below. As you can see by entries above in this thread the MoD are also producing information for me and I should get it within the next day or so. The links provided by FW are interesting so please view them. I will keep this site and others updated on this area of interest. This is why require to keep the pressure on, please keep emailing your MP's if they've failed to sign EDM 288 or get back to your requests. Thank you for making this a sticky and for the support being shown by all user's of this site. Outstanding :PDT_Xtremez_28:

I am doing alot of background work on other area's that affect our rights to social housing, as you can see from the information below, this issue is getting a lot of coverage. We can get this disgraceful Legislation changed, but we have to keep on the backs of our Political Masters.

Good luck


Regards

Hitback



17/02/07 16:27:42

Dear Fxxxxx,

Thank you for getting back to me. I have re-worded my questions and placed them below.

Thank you for your time on this issue.

Regards

Hitback


1. I would like copies of all correspondance that DCLG has had with the MoD on the issue of;

a. Housing provisions for members of Her Majestys' Armed Forces on termination or completion of their contract.

b. Housing provisions for service leavers of Her Majestys' Armed Forces and Veterans in the Social Housing Sector.

2. All Parliamentary questions asking the DCLG about the issue of housing for service leavers of Her Majestys' Armed Forces and Veterans of the armed forces, as well as the following;

a. All replies by the DCLG to Parliamentary Questions on housing provisions to the above question (2).

b. All party groups of M.Ps who have shown an interest in the need for housing provisions for service leavers and veterans of Her Majestys' Armed Forces.

c. Minister and All Party Groups offical and unoffical, who have asked questions about the Homelessness Legislation 15.10 under 199(2) and (3) and its removal.

3. All correspondence between your department and the Ministry of Defence on the issue of Local Connection legislation and how this impacts on the provision of social housing.

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15 March 2007

Dear Hitback



Thank you for your email request of 17 February seeking information about housing for armed services leavers which we received on 17 February.

You have asked for copies of correspondence between the Department for Communities and Local Government and the Ministry of Defence about the provision of social housing for members of Her Majesty's Armed Forces on completion/termination of their contract. The Department holds the information you are seeking. However, there is a large number of documents and it would not be practicable to send them to you by email. It would therefore be very helpful if you could provide me with a postal address.

The Freedom of Information (FOI) Act 2000 obliges us to respond to requests promptly, and in any event no later than 20 working days after receiving your request. However, when a qualified exemption applies to the information, we are permitted to extend the time for response by a reasonable period. We do, of course, aim to make all decisions within 20 working days, including in cases where we need to consider whether a qualified exemption applies in respect of a request for information.

The specific qualified exemptions we are considering in relation to your request are section 35(1) (a) (the formulation or development of government policy) and section 35(1)(b) (Ministerial communications).

In your case we need to extend our response time limit by 14 working days to give us time to assess whether the public interest in withholding the information outweighs the public interest in disclosing it.

Therefore, we plan to let you have a response by 5 April. If there is a need for any further extension of time we will keep you informed.

You have also asked for all Parliamentary Questions to this Department, and replies to them, about the issue of housing provision for leavers from and veterans of Her Majesty's Armed Forces.

Parliamentary Questions, and the response to the questions, are published on the parliament website (www.parliament.uk). However, for ease of reference, I have set out below the website addresses for a number of Parliamentary Questions relating to this subject Matter:

PQ 138220 - from Michael Weir MP

http://www.publications.parliament....vo031113/text/31113w16.htm#31113w16.html_wqn0

PQ 162766 - from Austin Mitchell MP

http://www.publications.parliament....vo040324/text/40324w23.htm#40324w23.html_wqn6

PQ 49146 - from Nadine Dorries MP

http://www.publications.parliament....vo060216/text/60216w05.htm#60216w05.html_wqn6

PQ 55977 - from Mark Harper MP

http://www.publications.parliament....d/cm060525/text/60525w0579.htm#06052638004440

PQ 86450 - from Mark Harper MP

http://www.publications.parliament....d/cm060725/text/60725w2100.htm#06072811011259

You have also asked for information about all party groups of MPs with an interest in the need for housing provision for leavers from and veterans of Her Majesty's Armed Forces, including those who have asked questions about the Homelessness Legislation.

If, by “all party groups of MPs”, you mean those unofficial groups of MPs which have an interest in a particular topic, then I am afraid that we do not have any information relating to these. However, I am aware that a number of MPs signed an Early Day Motion (EDM) put down by Nadine Dorries MP on this subject on 27 November 2006. The EDM is no. 288 and you can find the motion and signatories to it on the Parliament website at:

http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDetails.aspx?EDMID=31905&SESSION=885

Communities and Local Government as an organisation aims to be as helpful as possible in the way it deals with requests for information under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. If, however, you are not satisfied with the way in which your request has been handled or the outcome, you may request an internal review within two calendar months of the date of this letter. Information about the Department's review procedures and how to apply for an internal review of your case is contained on the Department's website at http://www.communities.gov.uk/index.asp?id=1141769

This also explains your right to apply directly to the Information Commissioner for a decision in the event that you remain dissatisfied following the internal review.

Please contact me if you have any queries about this email letter.



Yours sincerely,


Fxxxxs Wxxxxx



Senior Policy Adviser
Social Housing Management Branch
Zone 2/A4
Communities and Local Government
Eland House
Bressenden Place
London
SW1E 5DU
 
I have just been in touch with the Information Commissioner's Office about the above issue of the FOI by the DCLG. It was pointed out to me that under the specific qualified exemptions they're considering in relation to my request are section 35(1) (a) (the formulation or development of government policy) and section 35(1)(b) (Ministerial communications). They can use this as a get out clause to giving any information to me, of course they are trying to prevent me from obtaining the said information.

I was informed by the Commisioners Office that I have to wait to see if they block me on this information. Then go through their (DCLG) office first and then the Commisioners Office.

I will keep the site updated on this issue.

Hitback
 
There are now 176 MPs' signed up to the EDM 288 with more to follow. Please keep emailing those that haven't signed asking them to support our Armed Forces.

I believe the DCLG and the MoD will block my request for information about this issue and what discussions have gone on. It should make those within the Chain of Command asking questions about what they have to hide?

I will keep you updated on the information as or when I get it.

Hitback
 
The FOI from the MoD turned up in the Morning Post on Saturday. At a glance I've noticed the extent of in which Veterans are suffering under this Legislation. The problem is be placed firmly towards Charities, which I believe is incorrect. This is a Governmental issue and should be dealt with by Ministers. By that I mean, Changing the current legislation by removing 199(2)and(3) and investing more cash towards social housing and the area of homelessness. They could always introduce Minister Donation Day, where as they give up a days pay and exspense's, to aid homelessness charities?

I will be placing some of the information from the MoD on here over the next couple of day's.


Regards

hitback
 
The following question was asked by Mrs Nadine Dorries MP. The reply is by Mr Derek Twigg MP Under-Secretary of State for Defence and Minister for Veterans. The second link is a question from Nadine to Yvette Cooper MP for the DCLG. Interesting reply. At least we have got them looking at the issue of Local Connection and it's affects on service leavers. :PDT_Xtremez_30:

Well done all those taking part in this very important issue.

Hitback

Derek Twigg
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2007-02-20a.119670.h

Yvette Cooper
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans...71.h&s=section:wrans+speaker:11397#g119671.q0
 
Those that have emailed their MP's should of got a reply by now. If you haven't then please write them a letter asking why they have ignored your request. The Tory Party has twice the number of MP's backing this EDM in comparison to the Labour Party, is it because this government doesn't care about our needs?

This link will give you your MP's name and send a letter asking thm to support EDM 288.
http://www.britishlegion.org.uk/content/Problems-with-Social-Housing-513998.shtml
 
Those that have emailed their MP's should of got a reply by now. If you haven't then please write them a letter asking why they have ignored your request. The Tory Party has twice the number of MP's backing this EDM in comparison to the Labour Party, is it because this government doesn't care about our needs?

This link will give you your MP's name and send a letter asking thm to support EDM 288.
http://www.britishlegion.org.uk/content/Problems-with-Social-Housing-513998.shtml

Nice one Hitback for keeping this issue alive. Aint democracy wonderful?
 
buy a house!

buy a house!

I'm sick of hearing all this wingin!
Admittedly alot of pups on here are not loaded, but with a cpl earning 30k+ how can you all go on bleeting that you cant afford to buy?
Civvies seem to manage it with no wories?
 
Why should people have to buy a house? There are plenty of council tenants out there with good jobs, they just chose not to buy, why should we be different just because some people on here have felt the need to spend a lot of money so the government can tax you more?
 
I'm sick of hearing all this wingin!
Admittedly alot of pups on here are not loaded, but with a cpl earning 30k+ how can you all go on bleeting that you cant afford to buy?
Civvies seem to manage it with no wories?

Umm..my other half is a Cpl..and he aint on 30k+!!
 
Why should people have to buy a house? There are plenty of council tenants out there with good jobs, they just chose not to buy, why should we be different just because some people on here have felt the need to spend a lot of money so the government can tax you more?
I absolutely agree Joe

I have bought and have actively encouraged/assisted by my boys to do the same but every single member of HM Forces by their very nature are itinerant and deserve the opportunity of social housing if that is what they choose to do. Social housing may also allow them to take a look around to see if they've got the location right before they make a commitment to buy, and also get the kids into school

:PDT_Xtremez_21:
 
I'm sick of hearing all this wingin!
Admittedly alot of pups on here are not loaded, but with a cpl earning 30k+ how can you all go on bleeting that you cant afford to buy?
Civvies seem to manage it with no wories?

There is a problem that this EDM is trying to help address. A quarter of homeless people are ex-military. Before you say "so 3/4 arent", proportionally this is a very high percentage.


Source
 
Please then give your support to a veterans forum as previously discussed on general chat.


TW
 
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