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Email your MP - Social Housing for Ex Servicemen

I think the difference was the other thread was all about emailing your MP, this one is about you signing a petition.

There is a difference (albeit on the same subject)
Quite right and well spotted young Monobrow - I will, based on you evidence, leave the threads unmerged

Hu
 
OK I give up I have now seen the original link (I blame old age and Drink) I will now merge the threads - Mono I'm old I'm expected to miss these things Whats your excuse?

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Hu Jardon, I've tryed to amend the heading for this thread. Thank you for your support.

Update on EDM 288 and the Petition. At persent 145 MPs have signed the EDM, we really need to get 150 by the end of this week, so please keep emailing them.

The Petition has had over 1,700 signatiures but require to get at least 2,000 by the start of next week. If possible email all your address book contacts asking them to support this petition.

This is a short list of MPs that still haven't signed the EDM. There constituency are after their names. Lets give them as many requests as possible to sign EDM 288.

Thanks for all your help. :PDT_Xtremez_30:

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David Anderson. (Lab) Blaydon http://www.upmystreet.com/commons/email/l/252.html

Graham Allen. (Lab) Nottingham North. Postal only House of Commons, London, SW1A 0AA

Joe Benton. (Lab) Bootle. http://www.upmystreet.com/commons/email/l/444.html

Ben Bradshaw. (Lab) Exeter. http://www.upmystreet.com/commons/email/l/324.html

Tom Brake. (LD) Carshalton & Wallington. http://www.upmystreet.com/commons/email/l/198.html

Dr Roberta Blackman-woods. (Lab) Durham, City of. http://www.upmystreet.com/commons/email/l/250.html

Bob Blizzard. (Lab) Waveney. http://www.upmystreet.com/commons/email/l/422.html

Dr Roger Berry. (Lab) Kingswood. http://www.upmystreet.com/commons/email/l/118.html

Mr John Baron.(Con) Billericay. http://www.upmystreet.com/commons/email/l/187.html

Mr Alan Campbell. (Lab) Tynemouth. http://www.upmystreet.com/commons/email/l/523.html
 
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The shared Profit agreement between Annington Homes Plc and the Government should be looked into. the Exchequer has made over 100 Million since 1996 and more military locations are being sold on, the shared profit agreement ends in 2012, so I'm sure there's plenty more profits to be had?

Out of the 1.6 Bn that was raised by selling off the Service Family Accommodation, only £100million was placed to one side for the refurbishment of property still being used by military families. I'm sure we all understand that any refurbishment done only painted over the cracks. There is more than enough profit amongst the money being made to address this issue.

This is just a titbit to get people thinking, we do require more signatures on the petition and EDM 288, so please keep up the hard work.

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This is for anyone thats just started to read this thread, to stop you having to reading all the entries the following is what this thread is all about. The link at the bottom will take you to the EDM signatories.

I'm sure you can spare 2 minutes to email these MPs and ask them to sign EDM 288. The link at the (BOTTOM) also allows you to show your support for our serving soldiers. Click the link and sign the petition. :PDT_Xtremez_28:

Regards
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The current legislation discriminates against service personnel and puts them at a distinct disadvantage when requiring help with housing. An early day motion is currently being signed by MPs which if carried, will help change this legislation, but we need more of them to sign it if we are to get the government to take notice. We now need your support to get this through. Go to http://www.parliament.uk/directories/hciolists/alcm.cfm to find your MP and then Email your MP asking for support for this EDM.

If you wish, you could always take this simple letter and copy and paste it to your MP via the link. Don't forget to place their name and yours in the pasted letter.


Dear *******

The following EDM 288 has been tabled in the House of Commons. I believe our armed forces should be given all the support they require for their civilian transition, and housing is a fundamental requirement. I hope you will show your support by signing EDM 288.

Yours sincerely

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We now have 151 MPs signed up on the EDM. All those who have signed today are from the Lib Dems, big thanks to elovabloke for chasing those MPs up and anyone else who played a hand in it.

The Petition now has 1,822 signatures, but it would be nice to break the 2,000 mark before next week.

On both these issue we require to keep up the pressure, so please keep the Petition circulating and contacting all MPs asking them to sign EDM 288. :PDT_Xtremez_28:

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All but one has failed to sign the EDM, if possible could we get as many emails and letters sent to the remaining 9 MPs today.

David Anderson. (Lab) Blaydon http://www.upmystreet.com/commons/email/l/252.html

Graham Allen. (Lab) Nottingham North. Postal only House of Commons, London, SW1A 0AA

Joe Benton. (Lab) Bootle. http://www.upmystreet.com/commons/email/l/444.html

Ben Bradshaw. (Lab) Exeter. http://www.upmystreet.com/commons/email/l/324.html

Tom Brake. (LD) Carshalton & Wallington.Has Know signed the EDM.

Dr Roberta Blackman-woods. (Lab) Durham, City of. http://www.upmystreet.com/commons/email/l/250.html

Bob Blizzard. (Lab) Waveney. http://www.upmystreet.com/commons/email/l/422.html

Dr Roger Berry. (Lab) Kingswood. http://www.upmystreet.com/commons/email/l/118.html

Mr John Baron.(Con) Billericay. http://www.upmystreet.com/commons/email/l/187.html

Mr Alan Campbell. (Lab) Tynemouth. http://www.upmystreet.com/commons/email/l/523.html
 
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Soldier Magazine is running an article for the AFF at present (March). Their story covers the concerns of service leavers and their future housing. In fact, it covers this very issue and has taken some of its information from the thread being run on the armynet. A big thank you to the AFF.

The petition still requires more signatures so please keep passing it around friends and family. I have lost count on how many senior offices have signed the petition and other ranks. This shows the concern being expressed by our CoC, so please if you haven't signed yet, do so, and have the moral courage to show your support as well.


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This information was sent to me and the only way I could place a box around the information was to scan and paste onto the site.

As you will see the government of the day has failed in supporting our armed forces again. The Labour Party has 352 members of the house, but only 38 Labour MP's have shown support. If you live in a Labour constituency then please email your MP and ask them to support our Troops.

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Alphabetical List of Constituencies and Members of Parliament

http://www.parliament.uk/directories/hciolists/alcm.cfm
 
As you see there all as bad as each other. Its up to those that serve their country to stand up and sign the petition and email their MPs telling them to support EDM 288. Loyalty is a two way thing, and its about time our Political Masters started too show it. This is for general interest, for those that believe they will be looked after if injured or require help. We are canon fodder in their eyes. They stole our votes in the last general election, and they are stealing our democratic rights to social housing.

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I myself, hold the rank of Colour Sergeant, and I found it very easy to obtain the information below by going through the Conservative Electoral Headquarters prior to the election.

How come the army is finding it so hard to gather information that proves we were disenfrachised. I am sure that the explanation that will be given for this unfortunate mistake will be a masterpiece of obfuscation?.

The lesson learnt here is I wouldn't trust anyone with my vote!

I do believe that this will make for very intresting reading: The first letter is from Tony Blair (PM), to another MP


1O DOWNING STREET
LONDON SW1A 2AA
4 February 2005


THE PRIME MINISTER

Mr Robathan MP.

I undertook at Prime Minister's Questions on 2 February to look into your concerns about the numbers of Service personnel registered to vote.

As I said at PMQs, I fully agree that Service personnel must not be disenfranchised in any way, and the Government will make every effort to ensure that they are aware of the new opportunities for registration available under the Representation of the People Act 2000.

The 2000 Act presents Service personnel and their spouses with a wider range of electoral registration options than under the previous arrangements. They may now register to vote either at their private or other qualifying address, single or Service family accommodation, or by means of a Service declaration. The registrations must now be updated on an annual basis. The practical effect of the old system, although superficially attractive as it did not demand an annual update, was that a large proportion of contact details on the service personnel register was never current. I do not agree therefore with the perception that service voters are less likely to find themselves able to vote under the new arrangements.

As you will also know from Ivor Caplin's letter of 15 December, the Ministry of Defence and the Electoral Commission have carried out a tremendous amount of work to increase awareness in the service community of the options to register to vote.

An awareness campaign began at the end of January with the publication of a Defence Council instruction explaining the arrangements for electoral registration and voting for members of the Armed Forces and their spouses. An internal brief was placed on the Ministry of Defence and single service websites, and a signal to all units drew attention to this. At the same time a leaflet produced by the Electoral Commission is being distributed to all ships, units and stations, giving information on how to register to vote. The Commission has also produced a specific registration form for Service voters, which again outlines the options for registration, and is clearly signposted on their website. The form can be readily downloaded by units, and stocks maintained locally. A link to the Commission website is also available from the Ministry of Defence intranet.

In addition, the British Forces Broadcasting Service, which covers the areas with the greatest concentration of Service personnel overseas and on operations, has been given material for transmission by television and radio. A press release has also been offered to the editors of in-house publications (for example, Soldier Magazine, Navy News, and RAF News).

As the awareness campaign began only on 28 January, it is perhaps no surprise that its effect was not apparent when you visited Iraq last weekend. But I hope you will agree that much useful work has been done, and that we are certainly not dragging our feet.

Your eve,
Tony



Press Release 7th April 2005
Scandal of disenfranchised servicemen

As the UK prepares to go to the polls, British servicemen and women will be in operations in Iraq, Afghanistan and other danger spots around the world. There will be ships in the Gulf and aircraft under fire from terror groups in the Middle East.
Sadly, huge numbers of our brave service personnel will not be able to vote on the record of the government that has sent them to war whilst at the same time Blair is savagely cutting the Army, Royal Navy, and RAF.
This has been a result of a failure of policy, a lack of interest from ministers, and deliberate foot-dragging from the Labour government.
Having first admitted to knowing nothing about the problem on the floor of the House on 2nd February, Mr Blair promised Andrew Robathan in a letter on the 4th February that "the government will make every effort" to inform servicemen how to vote. Defence minister have laughed off our questions. The extent of Mr Caplin's concern was to comment that the "situation is not as bad as it seems"1. The Ministry of Defence finally said it had given every service man and woman a leaflet about voter registration, yet many units received this well after the deadline for registration for May 5th was past. Since 22nd February the Army Rumour Service has been running a campaign to reveal how many units did not receive voter registration leaflets2 in time.

Mr Robathan said:

"The Labour government has known about this grave situation since last year - if not before. They have deliberately done next to nothing to rectify the scandal. Anecdotal evidence suggests that between 70 and 80% of service personnel are not registered to vote. I have written to Sam Younger, the chairman of the Electoral Commission (check) to demand that he investigates the situation now."

1 Armed Forces Personnel Debate 20 Jan 2005 Hansard Column 1002
2http://www.arrse.co.ul^cpgrVFomrm/viewtopic/t=13386/highlighr=voting.html


'Most soldiers will not be able to vote'

This is from a national news paper.

BY CATRIONA DAVIES

TENS of thousands of men and women in the Armed Services: are not eligible to vote in the election because they were unaware that they had to register.
The Conservatives estimated yesterday that up to 80 per cent:of; military personnel would be unable to vote.
They said leaflets on how to register Were sent put too late for overseas personnel to register by the March 11 deadline, and the Army website carried out-of-date informtion which was not corrected until early February.
Soldiers, sailors and airmen used to register -for elections just once in their career, but since 2001 they have had to register every year.
Although they can register at their home addresses, most join as service voters.
The Electoral Commission produced 110,000 leaflets for troops. However, some of those stationed overseas said they did not get them in time.
Andrew Robathan, Con?servative defence spokesman, conducted a straw poll while in Iraq in February and found that eight out of 10 troops had not registered and had no idea that they had to.
He said the Electoral' Commission was "patently not interested in making sure that people serving their country are able to vote".
There are more than 200,000 British servicemen and women, around 48,000 of whom are currently stationed or deployed overseas.
The Electoral Commission said that the leaflets had been printed and sent to the Ministry of Defence by the start of' February for distribution via the forces,postal system. Tabitha Cunniffe, of the Electoral Commission, said: "The delay was at the MoD's end. ' "There is now no opportunity for anyone who has missed the deadline, but it is something we will be looking into for the next election."
The shadow defence secretary, Nicholas Soames, said: "It is scandalous that the same servicemen and women who made it possible for the Iraqi elections to take place are denied their right to vote by the feckless incompetence of Labour minister."
Lord Garden, a Lib Dem defence spokesman, said: "It's rather sad that we send our military personnel off to establish democracy and set up elections in countries like Iraq and Afghanistan, but don't make enough arrangements for them to vote here."
An MoD spokesman said that all units had received the leaflets by the'middle,of February, allowing plenty of time to register. She said: "We are not aware of anyone not having received the leaflets in time. There was also information On services broadcasting and the internal website."
 
All you have to do is open the link and put your post code in. Then your MPs address and picture will come up. Follow the online instructions and your email will be sent.

Please tell us if you have used this link. There are over 51 RAF sites in the UK and some have Labour MP's as their Constituency Minister.

We can change this legislation if we try.

thank you

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http://www.britishlegion.org.uk/content/Problems-with-Social-Housing-513998.shtml
 
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We now have 156 MP's signed up to the EDM 288, The Petition has 2,215 signatures. This topic is now on 9 web-sites, and getting support from all of them. Thank you for you pledge and help in the issue. The sad thing is, some of you reading and taking part will be affected by this legislation in the future.
 
E-mailed my MP using the template on this thread and 24 hours later my MP had signed! :PDT_Xtremez_30:

I encourage everyone to keep badgering your MP. Get them to do something for us for a change.
 
Just sent mine off. I'll be interested by the results as I'm in Cornwall and they are not big fans of outsiders!

Also,my surname doesn't start with "Tre":PDT_Xtremez_21:
 
Many thanks for your efforts. If you get negative responces please post on the thread so some of us can back up your request with further emails.
 
The EDM now has 162 MP's signed up, that's six in one day. The Petition has got 2,298 signatures and requires more names. So please keep on going with that one. The need for more MPs to sign is evident by these two press release's. Thank you to everyone for their help and tenacity, I know we will change this legislation in the future and help so many comrades.

The following was in a local paper, if anyone in the forces believes that this issue will not affect them, then think on. The people this paper is talking about were comrades once.

Regards

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Shameful treatment
187 words
1 March 2007
Essex Chronicle Series
(c) 2007 Essex Chronicle .

I have read Anne Fitzgerald's article (about the new centre in Chelmsford for homeless people) in the Essex Chronicle (February 1 issue) with interest. I have never been unfortunate enough to find myself homeless, however it is a well known fact that almost a third of homeless people are from an ex-forces background. These figures are from Shelter and Crisis websites.

You did speak to one man, Jimmy, an ex-serviceman. Does he know that he maybe entitled to help from the Royal British Legion?


A Tory MP, Nadine Dorries Bedford, has set an early day motion trying to help ex-forces and their families have the same rights when they leave the services.

Thanks to this Government, when an individual/s leave they have no rights to even go on to their local authority's waiting list for housing.

Shameful beyond belief, having served one's country. A lot of people are homeless for various reasons, but for the majority of ex-forces who are homeless the reason is this Government and this country's attitude to them.

Andrew Thomas

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UPDATE.

There are a lot of MP's that have stated they will sign EDM 288, but have failed to do so. If your MP is one of those Minister, then please email them asking why their name has not appeared on the list.

We need to keep this issue a live by emailing MP's and signing the Petition.


Regards

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Have received a letter from my MP saying that he had signed the EDM and totally supported the plight of servicemen and their families.:PDT_Xtremez_19:

My missus found the letter and thought I was in deep sh!t:PDT_Xtremez_31:
 
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