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Downsizer said:
I get what you're saying, but equally I wouldn't sh1t on most of my colleagues. Some of them will be friends long after the mob.
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Trust me - they will still be friends after you leave - but its a mind set change.. look after number one.. the RAF comes a very distant second.
 
Downsizer said:
Erm, yes because the are not only colleagues they're also actual friends.

But I don't expect your selfish attitude to understand that.
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I do understand it. I might come across as selfish but I was trying to get across the point that at some time you have to stand up and make a statement.
 
We're already undermanned after being raped by manning and PVRs in the last 18 months. Once the next 10 blokes come through in the next 6 months or so we should be ok. I'm looking to stay in the area and not stray too far from where I am so to leave under a cloud wouldn't be in my best interests either, particularly as I like socialising with these guys and girls.
 
Downsizer said:
I get what you're saying, but equally I wouldn't sh1t on most of my colleagues. Some of them will be friends long after the mob.
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I only read the first part of your post and giggled. I wouldn't **** on some of my colleagues either....they're not worth it. Top tip read to the end before jumping to a conclusion...:PDT_Xtremez_42:
 
Max good luck with what ever you chose to do buddy, hope it all pans out exactly as you envisage it. So 2016 could see Boro in the premiership and you in civvy street. :PDT_Xtremez_28:
 
Good friends, and even fair drinking buddies, won't bother about you leaving when you need to.
Colleagues will.
The so-called friends that try to make you delay your exit are not really your friends - because they are looking after themselves first.

But its your lesson to learn. Learn it your way
 
I agree Rigga. If it was one of my friends leaving for bigger and better things then i wouldn't care when they left and would merely wish them well (with a hint of jealousy too for having the balls to leave the bubble of the RAF).

Do what you feel is right, but do not do it out of mistaken loyalty.
 
justintime129 said:
It's not scary it's just different. That freedom of choice knowing you are not beholden to any man
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Absolutely! The most stressful thing I found after 22 and a half years was.......Where the fug do I buy socks from?
That's really just how scary it is. Obviously there are many variables to all individuals kids/house blah blah.
But if you think something isn't right? You can change it. Good luck
 
foxOneFive said:
Absolutely! The most stressful thing I found after 22 and a half years was.......Where the fug do I buy socks from?
That's really just how scary it is. Obviously there are many variables to all individuals kids/house blah blah.
But if you think something isn't right? You can change it. Good luck
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I left in 1999 and Ive been in the dodgy world of aviation since then. I have never had a pay cut or freeze. I have never gone where I didnt want to go. I have never been camping since. I always stay in a nice warm place, even if it is sometimes a Premier Inn. I once stopped some RAF colleagues from getting all "gung-ho" about getting to an audit in inclement weather! "NO, We just don't do that sort of risk!"
It is a different world out here and initially my biggest dilemma was "what Tie goes with this Shirt?"

You are a serviceman who has spent years dealing with whatever comes next. This is just one of those things that all servicemen have to face...one day.

Okay, I've been out a while, but, after 40 years in a similar trade I get much, much more than a WO who's done the same..and I've had my pension on top of that for 15 years too! (paid for my home too!)
 
Max Reheat said:
We're already undermanned after being raped by manning and PVRs in the last 18 months.
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Your employers and former colleagues didn't give two hoots about your section, so why should you?

As others have said, do what is right for you, when its right for you.

Good luck.
 
Well I've been away from here for quite a while but I decided to leave 2 years ago after 23 years. It was my choice I decided on a career change aged 40 rather than 48. Best decision I made, I probably joined the oil industry at the right time as not long afterwords the industry has taken a big hit (similar to the mob). I do not miss it one bit, I've made new friends and most are in very similar mindset to us , with regards to work hard play hard. I still keep in touch with my RAF m8s but you just move on in life, the meet ups now and again are enough to catch up with the mob. Good luck on your future, it really is not scary on the outside, much the opposite as finally family and things are so much better. I earn twice as much as I did as a SNCO plus my pension to top up the month off. My pension and private medical is just as good as the mod package so for me I've been very lucky. My only thing that I know as it never lasts forever and you worry when you see lads get paid off but you gotta take opportunities while they are on a plate.good luck :) best move I ever made.

For those that mind my rants, howdy guys, it's been a while since I been on the goat. Hope you all fine and well
 
I can declare that the first things I threw out as I left the RAF was....black socks...I have no black socks in my wardrobe anymore!

Nice to read you back, Billy.
 
Can't say I've ever worn the issue black socks, post basic training. Not comfy, not warm, not good. Been wearing black sports socks for 15 years...
 
Max,

It's all an attitude issue (and that's from you). Once I made up my mind to leave and actually hit the JPA buttons, I said " that's that then....move on".

I did enjoy 95% of my time in, but it was time to leave. I have not regretted it for one minute. Yes, you do miss certain things (warped senses of humour especially) but you can live without it.

Quality of life has risen dramatically on less money ( I totally retired at 53) but by hell, I enjoy it more!

You do what is right for you and nobody else (trust me, they will do the same when their time comes).
 
I banged out just over a year ago - Time flies as a civvy, especially for me in the first year, getting a first house, etc !

It just felt right at the time - all things came together (Location, Schooling, Jobs, and 26 years in, no promotion prospects.... etc).

I had to do my 6 months (at the time) though, as I couldn't get released early, even with a job offer letter.

I did feel slightly sorry at the time for my (ex) colleagues, but I thought it was time to put self before service for a change.

No regrets now.
 
Well, after learning that TG1 PVR waiting times are going up from 6 to 12 months on 1st December it's forced my hand. Pressed the button last night.

I think that no more alcohol claims on JPA was the straw that broke the camels back :PDT_Xtremez_28:
 
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