re-set of leave 2012

[Woodja]

Low and behold they have only authorised 10 days carry forward over and above the 15 as I have been told this is policy. They have no discretion in this (apparently). Can the admin bods confirm this? Carried forward more than this a couple of years ago, is this a new policy? I reiterated I couldn't take it due to service reasons..tough. I told them that we would have the same problem again next year as they have decided to send me OOA again for a 6 monther, 5 1/2 months after my last one. Apart from the SC route surely there is a common sense approach to situations like this....or perhaps not. I have tried to remain professional throughout my career and had my fair share of shaftings however, I think they are taking the p*ss more than ever. It has been mentioned on other posts about allegiance, I can see Vims point when they start doing this.

The problem you have is that the JSP states that there must be a reasonable expectation that you will take the excess leave in the next 12 months. If you are expecting another 6 monther this year, could you reasonably expect your section to allow you more than the 64 days leave you have within this year?

 

[mememe]

The problem you have is that the JSP states that there must be a reasonable expectation that you will take the excess leave in the next 12 months. If you are expecting another 6 monther this year, could you reasonably expect your section to allow you more than the 64 days leave you have within this year?

No, as my staff will be OOA during this time therefore, it is unreasonable/unprofessional of me to insist. Perhaps that is where I am going wrong. Found out that the 10 days is indeed to conform to the WTD. If they were to carry forward more than 10 they are high lighting a breach and are not willing to do this whatever the reason. Indirectly they are saying f**k you. They would not enter discussions about the foreseeable issue that will occur when I depart on an OOA pretty soon. I can see them shafting me again, perhaps time to get a lawyer involved should they go down this route. I will be taking SD to make up for the lost leave however, this will compound the situation further down the line. Common sense does not prevail.

 

[Barch]

No, as my staff will be OOA during this time therefore, it is unreasonable/unprofessional of me to insist. Perhaps that is where I am going wrong. Found out that the 10 days is indeed to conform to the WTD. If they were to carry forward more than 10 they are high lighting a breach and are not willing to do this whatever the reason. Indirectly they are saying f**k you. They would not enter discussions about the foreseeable issue that will occur when I depart on an OOA pretty soon. I can see them shafting me again, perhaps time to get a lawyer involved should they go down this route. I will be taking SD to make up for the lost leave however, this will compound the situation further down the line. Common sense does not prevail.

And how unprofessional are the upper management for allowing these types of situation to arise?

Make waves and tell them to get it sorted otherwise it will get worse and not just for you but also for every one of your subordinates.

 

[Mug?]

What they would say

What they would say

I reiterated I couldn't take it due to service reasons..tough. I told them that we would have the same problem again next year as they have decided to send me OOA again for a 6 monther, 5 1/2 months after my last one.

They will say you had 5 1/2 months to take your leave. Then it becomes a bun fight between your management and the letter of the law adminers.

If we are doing more 6 monthers like the barmy lot do then we either need to be more flexible with leave (not going to happen) or they allow us to have 4 months off as a lump, without us feeling guilty or suffering at SJAR time.