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On the subject of FRI. I understand that the Gnrs and FFtrs got a FRI primarily because of one issue, high PVR rates. A common factor exacerabting their FMDL/PVR rates was the high turn round times for OOA dets, which I believe are much worse than TG17 and virtually all other trades. The other significant factor affecting Fftrs was that there were working alongside Defence Fire Service (DFS) personnel on shift in the UK, and the DFS guys were getting paid significantly more for doing exactly the same job! Gnrs(as do the infantry) get paid a pittance for the work they do OOA, even with the operational allowance. Furthermore, they see their mates leaving to go to very well paid jobs in Iraq and Afghanistan, where they will earn significantly more than if they stayed in. Why get shot at for a pittance when you can get shot at for £70K for 6 months. Hence why Gnrs and FFtrs were awarded a FRI and why at the moment Pers Admin won't be.
I personally think using FRIs is like using a cork to plug a hole in a dam, it won't hold for long unless the fundamental problem is addressed, however it's a cheap, cost effective short term solution. The RAF is broke and it cannot afford a long term fix. If we want to fix the supposedly increasing PVR rate and thus the FMDL in TG17, then as a start I suggest we address the DWR TRT issue. Why do we have over 400 TG17 Sgts and a DWR TRT of every 2 years? Thats a lot of people exempt/sick! I understand drafters are exempt, is it true, anyone I ask in the HQ clams up and won't talk about it. Come on you PMA mafia, what's the score?
I think the Strategic Renumeration Review may also address some of the issues raised here, I understand they'll be more scope to move up THE one pay spine for all, depending on qualifications etc.
As for CIPD. On accrediation of training, of the modules (Law, Managing Business in a Strategic Contect, Managing Information for Competitive Advantage, Managing for Results and managing and Leading People) on the first year of my CIPD course none read accross to any training I initially received on entry in to the RAF, thus I don't think there is scope to accredit the PABC training. I may have a different view after the second year. I'd like to be proved wrong, perhaps the trade sponsor could approach CIPD and discuss the issue, or let us know that its been tried.
I don't susbscribe to the view that some posters have, that just because your furthering your qualifications/professional knowledge that it means your going to leave the RAF or sherk your responsibilities at work. After all the RAF already sends people off on CIPD/CIMA/MA/MSc courses, admittedly they are officers. Perhaps we should give CIPD training to all WOs, they can then disseminate their knowledge down to the troops. If we are to retain people, we need to develop them, CIPD is just another tool, like TMT, JMLC etc. I applied for PVR last Oct and I'm studying for CIPD, I've also just collected another spec rec and I regularly work past 5 on a Friday. I made the decison to leave a long time before I commenced my CIPD.
On the issue of leaving at 55 or earlier. I think the 55 limit will be pushed back, however demographics and the reality will push it back.(We have doctors in their late 50s deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan, if they can do it, why can't you stay in till 60 or 65, especially if you are employed in a benign evironment( Musn, Dental, EHT, Pers Admin etc). Previous posters are correct in saying we are exempt the age regulations, as we are exempt a whole raft of employment law. What the RAF does though is try where it can to adhere to the spirit of the law. This may be as small a measure as changing age 47 to TOS 30.
I personally think using FRIs is like using a cork to plug a hole in a dam, it won't hold for long unless the fundamental problem is addressed, however it's a cheap, cost effective short term solution. The RAF is broke and it cannot afford a long term fix. If we want to fix the supposedly increasing PVR rate and thus the FMDL in TG17, then as a start I suggest we address the DWR TRT issue. Why do we have over 400 TG17 Sgts and a DWR TRT of every 2 years? Thats a lot of people exempt/sick! I understand drafters are exempt, is it true, anyone I ask in the HQ clams up and won't talk about it. Come on you PMA mafia, what's the score?
I think the Strategic Renumeration Review may also address some of the issues raised here, I understand they'll be more scope to move up THE one pay spine for all, depending on qualifications etc.
As for CIPD. On accrediation of training, of the modules (Law, Managing Business in a Strategic Contect, Managing Information for Competitive Advantage, Managing for Results and managing and Leading People) on the first year of my CIPD course none read accross to any training I initially received on entry in to the RAF, thus I don't think there is scope to accredit the PABC training. I may have a different view after the second year. I'd like to be proved wrong, perhaps the trade sponsor could approach CIPD and discuss the issue, or let us know that its been tried.
I don't susbscribe to the view that some posters have, that just because your furthering your qualifications/professional knowledge that it means your going to leave the RAF or sherk your responsibilities at work. After all the RAF already sends people off on CIPD/CIMA/MA/MSc courses, admittedly they are officers. Perhaps we should give CIPD training to all WOs, they can then disseminate their knowledge down to the troops. If we are to retain people, we need to develop them, CIPD is just another tool, like TMT, JMLC etc. I applied for PVR last Oct and I'm studying for CIPD, I've also just collected another spec rec and I regularly work past 5 on a Friday. I made the decison to leave a long time before I commenced my CIPD.
On the issue of leaving at 55 or earlier. I think the 55 limit will be pushed back, however demographics and the reality will push it back.(We have doctors in their late 50s deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan, if they can do it, why can't you stay in till 60 or 65, especially if you are employed in a benign evironment( Musn, Dental, EHT, Pers Admin etc). Previous posters are correct in saying we are exempt the age regulations, as we are exempt a whole raft of employment law. What the RAF does though is try where it can to adhere to the spirit of the law. This may be as small a measure as changing age 47 to TOS 30.
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