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Rugby 6 Nations 2007

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Rugby 6 Nations 2007

  • England

    Votes: 25 36.2%

  • France

    Votes: 8 11.6%

  • Ireland

    Votes: 14 20.3%

  • Italy

    Votes: 1 1.4%

  • Scotland

    Votes: 10 14.5%

  • Wales

    Votes: 11 15.9%
  • Total voters
    69
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gemarriott said:
Ashton has rung the changes and that is what we have all been crying out for an England coach to do. I don't think he's got it quite right but then why should he be expected to in his first game.

Not sure I like Ellis at scrum half, Wilkinson is too big a gamble, Farrel a great player of the other code but not experienced enough to put into an experimental side and I worry about Robinson's defence as he still finds himself out of position after 5 years playing he proper game.

I hope Ashton has got it right though and I for one will be shouting as loud as I can come the games.
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I stand corrected, Ellis was excellent, Farrell OK, Robinson goodin attack but I thought he could have been stronger in defence but what about Jonny? I am amazed and dead pleased for the lad,he was brilliant.

Well done Mr Ashton
 
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I am a Welshman, grieves me to say but I thought that 9, 10 and 12 were excellent. Considering Farrell has only played 12 games of Union was much better than okay. Shows his skill set when at times he was at 1st reciver full of confidence and he had Wilkinson outside him.
 
gemarriott said:
I stand corrected, Ellis was excellent, Farrell OK, Robinson goodin attack but I thought he could have been stronger in defence but what about Jonny? I am amazed and dead pleased for the lad,he was brilliant.

Well done Mr Ashton
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Yeph, the Ashton effect! Mate I saw in the pub today, said 12 months ago "Watch England under Ashton, they will be there!" Reply today whas "You won that bet!". I know it was one game, however "Today" England's players were enjoying themselves playing Rugby! The last time we saw that was 2001 when "foot and mouth" stopped them rampaging through to the greatest "Glam Slam" ever! (the attack coach was a certain "Brian Ashton"!):PDT_Xtremez_31:
 
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SirSaltyHelmet said:
I am a Welshman, grieves me to say but I thought that 9, 10 and 12 were excellent. Considering Farrell has only played 12 games of Union was much better than okay. Shows his skill set when at times he was at 1st reciver full of confidence and he had Wilkinson outside him.
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While perhaps not playing a Blinder that Ian Robertson suspected he might on Radio Five this morning, he did not play badly!! :PDT_Xtremez_28:
 
SirSaltyHelmet said:
I am a Welshman, grieves me to say but I thought that 9, 10 and 12 were excellent. Considering Farrell has only played 12 games of Union was much better than okay. Shows his skill set when at times he was at 1st reciver full of confidence and he had Wilkinson outside him.
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I hadn't really been a fan of Ellis, I still don't think he has a quality international level pass but hemade up for that by doing the others stuff really well. I'll hold fire on Farrell till he faces some really high quality oppostion but he showed well enough today and as you rightly say had cconfidence to step up and try to make things happen.

Robinson is still a weak link defensivly though, I would just get my stand off to put him under a high ball as often as possible, he never catches one willingly.
 
SirSaltyHelmet said:
Hey, England still harp on about 2003 and 1966!! Must be the only two times the competitions have been staged
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That's cause we have .....

A - made it to the final

and

B - won the Final.

How many time have the Welsh managed that feat????

Answer - ZERO!!!!!

However there are three games that come to my mind were when England played Wales in 93, 94 and 98. the first two I was at Valley and BBC Wales were gloating when the Welsh beat England 10-9 thanks to some pilot's lack of situation awareness (1993). I was in a night club in Holyhead after the game and the Welsh boys were cock-a-hoop, almost got into a fight after making the comment that Wales were still going to win the Wooden Spoon, which is precisely what happened.

94, The Grand slam is on for the Welsh, only got to beat England at Twickenham, England at this point haven't scored a try in the entire tournament and some welsh scopie I know is going on about how England play boring rugby. Well England stuffed the Welsh with most points coming from tries.

98, I’m in the rugby club on the unit, with about 8 Welsh blokes in front of me. 15 minutes into the game and I’m thinking that England may lose the match, then the flood gates opened. 20 minutes into the second half , I'm watching steam pour out of the Welshmen in front as I shout out ‘Make it Sixty’, which the English team then went and did, loved it.
 
I've just heard that yesterday's Calcutta Cup result has been overturned. It turns out the TMO has an English boyfriend.

It's true. If you don't believe me, read it here.
 
being an england supporter i totally agree that the tmo must have had a pre booked appointment at specsavers but you can't deny that england had more shape and vision with the 9/10 combination. all you have to say is " wilko's back and he here to stay" injuries permitting. the result on the wales ireland game was not fair and having been totally enthrauled ny it i just hope the two games against them are half as good and to be honest i would not mind if england lost and put on a performance as good as what wales did.

final thought " is johnny the best 10 in the world again and does he surpass o'gara in the kicking stakes" i beleive the answer is yes and would like your thoughts on it!!!
 
FG - I'm a club before country man and every time JW has played in front of the shed, I've been pretty un-impressed. He plays well on the international scene and there's no denying that, but club wise? no thanks. He can be shut down very easily, Newks have built their team around him, not just have a good team with him in it (if you see what I mean).
 
fugmeister general said:
being an england supporter i totally agree that the tmo must have had a pre booked appointment at specsavers but you can't deny that england had more shape and vision with the 9/10 combination. all you have to say is " wilko's back and he here to stay" injuries permitting. the result on the wales ireland game was not fair and having been totally enthrauled ny it i just hope the two games against them are half as good and to be honest i would not mind if england lost and put on a performance as good as what wales did.

final thought " is johnny the best 10 in the world again and does he surpass o'gara in the kicking stakes" i beleive the answer is yes and would like your thoughts on it!!!
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Sorry fella but Daniel Carter is leagues ahead of any other player, not just the 10s, in the world at the moment.
 
wgaf said:
Sorry fella but Daniel Carter is leagues ahead of any other player, not just the 10s, in the world at the moment.
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Carter is the best No. 10, but what matters is the half-back combination. England did so well because Harry Ellis played out of his skin.

I still believe that Dwayne Peel/Stephen Jones make the best half-back pairing in the world at the moment, with Stringer/O'Gara a very close second.
 
Is it just me or where Italy, in the second half, the most entertaining team out there this afternoon, England didn't seem to have a clue which way to play, they seemed stuck with no fluency btewwen backs and forwards. As for the Jocks and Welsh, shocking, plenty of industry from the sweatys and defence from the Welsh but feck all else.
I for one was dissapointed with both games, are these really the best, Ireland excepted, the best players in the home nations?
 
Italy played loads better this week after a really poor performance against France last week, England played the wrong kind of game for too long today (grunt but no guile). It was fair enough to mix it with them in the forwards, but we ran out of idea's when the game needed some width. Italy made the most of it and put together a very good second half performance.

I still think England are improving as a side under Ashton but as lots of us have already said on here, it's not going to happen overnight.
 
wgaf said:
Is it just me or where Italy, in the second half, the most entertaining team out there this afternoon, England didn't seem to have a clue which way to play, they seemed stuck with no fluency btewwen backs and forwards. As for the Jocks and Welsh, shocking, plenty of industry from the sweatys and defence from the Welsh but feck all else.
I for one was dissapointed with both games, are these really the best, Ireland excepted, the best players in the home nations?
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I totally agree with u mate. Didnt get to see both games live but after coming back from clothes shopping with Mrs Stingray and taking my son to his swimming gala i watched the highlights. You know what highlights are.......its like missing half the game and then watching what u missed the next day!!!!!

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