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and god forbid we ever get linked up with the Muppets again, mind you scribbling trim sheets on the back of a packet of fags is probably where it all started for TG18b and it's links with Lambert&Butler....

You see those muppets at said Oxfordshire base who are getting done for smuggling fags knew what they were doing, they were just replenishing there stocks. So they have started doing stacker jobs already. B@stards:PDT_Xtremez_42::PDT_Xtremez_42:
 
Mjdi

Mjdi

I would only stop working in an ESA after I had been promoted. I have not met a Cpl that has worked in an ESA trhat has not been picked up - Its a mind **** job that gets under your skin and lets face it, anyone can drag their knuckles on the ground and talk the talk with Armourers!

The MJDI system is based on the Army SS3 computer and the finished product will rerquire alot of retraining for RAF Suppliers - It is not the same systema t all.

Resignation and suicide to follow!

It would appear that "You CAN fly without Supply!"

MJDI POC as far as I am aware is what the majority of RAF supply is using now and the interface of MJDI for the user will not change (it is not based on the Army system but on USAS2), it is the Base Inventory System that is changing (SCCS/SS3/CRISP) all being replaced by one system, so it is the Army and Navy that will have to retrain not the RAF, there is only a slight modification of the demand process for SS3 managed items. There has been an ongoing process to transfer equipment to one BIS which was SS3 as it was easier and bigger so could transfer to the new system MBIS (Management of the Base Inventory System) easier than the other two, but that decision changes on a weekly basis.
 
Not forgetting most clothing stores are run by civvies and they certainly dont possess common sense!!


Have to disagree that in the secret Oxfordshire AT base, clothing are excellent. Run of course by an ex blue stacker who knows the score.

D
 
Have to disagree that in the secret Oxfordshire AT base, clothing are excellent. Run of course by an ex blue stacker who knows the score.

D

Them good boys who are suppliers instead of storemen are few and far between mate.
 
Dantura, you are picking the exception and yes Mr D is fabulous, but just remember the pleasure we had when we would visit clothing stores at a secret carot crunching base. Now that was well worth a sock exchange.

The RAF was better when we ran stores in blues. More fun, more sensible decisions and more favours were done across the station.

The way you stick up for people, you really should do a barrack room lawer course!!! Anyway better to do that than to sit in a car and set fire to it or rob a post office and get caught!
 
WhAt do you all get so upset about, when people are just doing their job. If a techie reads his manual and it says you have to unscrew the fcuking nut they unscrew the fcuking nut. If the Stackers bible says they have to exchange clothing one for one then it is one for one. FCUKING GROW UP.:PDT_Xtremez_32::PDT_Xtremez_32::PDT_Xtremez_32:
 
Anyway better to do that than to sit in a car and set fire to it or rob a post office and get caught!

Ah I remember them 2 incidents well! I seem to recall that the guy who set his car on fire turned up to a block BBQ a few days later to be told what u doing here as you didnt invite us to your BBQ!
 
You may have to "unscrew the nut" as you put it in order to complete a job on said aeroplane.

You don't have to take someones old sweaty roten socks in order hand over a new pair.

Like I said before common F*ucking sense!:PDT_Xtremez_25:
Like I said before rules are rules. But maybe they don't apply to you because you think you are special.
 
Like I said before rules are rules. But maybe they don't apply to you because you think you are special.

Your being pedantic and you know it!

There is a big bloody difference between returning some bloody used socks to stores to go in the bin or changing a nut on an AC which could be a flight safety hazard. FFS the JSP is a guide to how supply should be run, hence why there are so many discrepancies between each unit and so many local procedures for each job.
 
Your being pedantic and you know it!

There is a big bloody difference between returning some bloody used socks to stores to go in the bin or changing a nut on an AC which could be a flight safety hazard. FFS the JSP is a guide to how supply should be run, hence why there are so many discrepancies between each unit and so many local procedures for each job.

Of course I am being pedantic. But why do people think they can break the bloody rules. But then again that is todays Air Force. If there are rules lets break them and see how far we can push it.
 
Of course I am being pedantic. But why do people think they can break the bloody rules. But then again that is todays Air Force. If there are rules lets break them and see how far we can push it.

Yes there are rules and then there's common sense too!! You must be a right bundle of joy if you've never broken a rule!!
 
Of course I am being pedantic. But why do people think they can break the bloody rules. But then again that is todays Air Force. If there are rules lets break them and see how far we can push it.

Oh so what you only ever place demands for people who are on the authorised demands lists for each inventory do you?? I can just imagine that, sat in the sqn stores and ickle SACT comes in... excuse me mate can you demand me 7 of these nuts for ZJ546... oh no sorry mate go away and get the CT in charge of that inv to come in a demand them as you are not on the authorised demander list! Pfft as if!! Have you returned every US asset of clothing to stores ever? Or every L stores when on a sqn stores?? Hmm methinks not! people in glass houses ought not to throw stones and try to get one over on someone by being cleaver when blatantly we are talking about something that is in the JSP which really shouldn't be there! If you can't think outside the box then I'm bloody pleased your not my boss!
 
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Clothing won't be a problem at all when MJDI R3 arrives everyone gets a electronic clothing AinU and all the stacker has to do is issue and return the kit to the persons AinU. No problem. I hear it will have a no return with in the 593 time and the stacker hits the Bill button and the AinU is charged automatically might even be a link to JPA so no having to pop to accounts to pay the bill.

No more clothing cards no more lost cards. Your AinU will be electronically posted to your new camp on every move. So the stackers will always know what you have and of course like any other AinU a print can be generated for the holder at any time.
 
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Whats all this got to do with the original title of this thread?

Please support by putting posts on here as to why we are needed! Any Techies that can support why a Stacker gives a better service than a civy option please join in. Thanx


We are still discussing as far as I am concerned why we are needed as suppliers even if it is just to show that some can look between the lines of the JSP.

Thanks for your help modding though I really appreciate it! :PDT_Xtremez_30:
 
Tab ext, RAF Bird is spot on. I started this thread to try and get people to try and justify, and support our trade. Your niff naff and triv has little input to this.

Now with a deficit in the budget (£40M for RAF wages alone in PR10) we have to champion our success and the need for service Stackers. Our 2* is driven to save money! If you say to his office 'I save the MOD budget £1,000,000 through having a serviceman doing this job', he is not bothered, even if you justify it. Because the capitation rates, etc that go with the serviceman is massive in comparison to a civvy over the life time, till AVM,s retirement.

I thought Janto or some other TSW would have come up with an angle of why we are needed! If we were all like TAB, EXT, then just give the JSP to the cleaner and they can follow it word for word. TAB, get over it and take yourself to the loo and get rid of some fustration. Support and defend our trade, everyone, please.
 
Any Techies that can support why a Stacker gives a better service than a civy option please join in. Thanx
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Okay, as an ex RAF techy who has seen both sides of the fence when it comes to engineering. i.e the Mil world and the Civ world.

As an RAF techy, I met some suppliers who were worth their weight in gold. In fact to the point of reverement in two or three cases. These were the lads who knew that we needed them, not in the background of our engineering tasks, but right up there with us, with the aircraft.

These were the lads who would go the extra mile to help us get the aircraft serviceable, using and tweaking the supply chain to get the spares we needed, especially more so when on det. These were the lads who would get in early and go home late just to make sure that the flying program was achieved.

Even more than that, they were an equal part of the squadron, something that a civvy stacker could never be, even if they tried.

In the civ world, some of the suppliers are great and do a great job, with as much focus on the aircraft serviceability as what us techs have.

Of course, then there are the t0ssers who spoil it for everyone. But sadly that applies to all walks of life.


TW
 
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