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Norman the Storeman

Norman the Storeman

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Has this all been completed now?

Which rank is looking good for transfer to High Band?

Probably not Cpl seeing as 48% of them are unavailable for OOA...blimey! Has this figure changed yet?
 
Norman the Storeman said:
Has this all been completed now?

Which rank is looking good for transfer to High Band?

Probably not Cpl seeing as 48% of them are unavailable for OOA...blimey! Has this figure changed yet?
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48% unavailable?? Where did you hear about that then Norm? I'm what you could say out of trade sort of and never get to hear about owt stacker wise.
 
irishlogster said:
48% unavailable?? Where did you hear about that then Norm? I'm what you could say out of trade sort of and never get to hear about owt stacker wise.
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Figures quoted by trade sponsor visit earlier this year at my unit. Not all sick notes mind. Screened tours, LTD, etc all included too.
 
Just think of all the posts in the fight club if any rank gets the higher pay band think it will just about send the techies over the edge.
 
stacker4ever said:
Just think of all the posts in the fight club if any rank gets the higher pay band think it will just about send the techies over the edge.
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Look out of your window and you will see my 'Car'; some of us are already in the High Pay Band.:PDT_Xtremez_28: However, I really hope the SAC/Cpls get a proper hearing this time.
 
Gillo said:
Look out of your window and you will see my 'Car'; some of us are already in the High Pay Band.:PDT_Xtremez_28: However, I really hope the SAC/Cpls get a proper hearing this time.
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Off Topic It's only the baby version of a real car Gillo & tax free to boot. Glad you still have some time to Goat now you have a 'proper' job!!
 
Gillo said:
Look out of your window and you will see my 'Car'; some of us are already in the High Pay Band.:PDT_Xtremez_28: However, I really hope the SAC/Cpls get a proper hearing this time.
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True, but how about the Sgts? All that time spent slaving over SJARs & chasing Cpls & SACs that can't/won't update their bits on JPA!

It's a nightmare, sometimes I don't get away until 11:30am on a Friday. Outrageous!
 
After all those years in the mob being told "Supply will get a band raise one day" I really hope Suppliers do get what they deserve.

Its scary how underpaid compared to civvy street the the Supply side of S&M is bearing in mind the skillset and responsibility many in the trade have. I walked out of the RAF and straight into a civvy job that has less responsibility but pays 12K more than I was earning.

Of course the biggest problem I see is the quality of the people they choose to interview and the quality of the questions they have been given to ask. The last time they did a review of the trade they turned up at Brize with questions such as "show me how you issue an item" and promptly discovered there is rather more to Supply then that.
 
Thats the problem. If you get someone who cant be arsed to spend a bit of time filling out the questionaire sent to them then we can just kiss it good bye.

Still the wing is not included in the review as it doesnt make up 5% of the trade so theres another big chunk of work that doesnt even count.
 
stacker4ever said:
Thats the problem. If you get someone who cant be arsed to spend a bit of time filling out the questionaire sent to them then we can just kiss it good bye.

Still the wing is not included in the review as it doesnt make up 5% of the trade so theres another big chunk of work that doesnt even count.
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Mate the Wing is in the interview.
They are on the list for Cpl, but no other Ranks. Don't know who they have chosen for the big event?


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I know one lad of a small nature here who got a questionaire but dont know if its going to be included in the final figs as i thought that at least 5% of the trade must be employed on that job. Im probably wrong though.

Although i agree with norman the seniors deserve it the most coz they are brill!
 
I think that TSW has been bundled into the fuelly world as a whole, so they can count it. Don't quote me on that though.

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Well if it worked for the slammers then you never know maybe we may just slip it past them this time. It would be nice if any rank got it just to rub salt in open wounds!
 
stacker4ever said:
I know one lad of a small nature here who got a questionaire but dont know if its going to be included in the final figs as i thought that at least 5% of the trade must be employed on that job. Im probably wrong though.
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Suspect Trade Sponser is using wrong end of telescope re TSW. Its not how many are on the Wing but how many have worked in the Field Fuels role. Suspect figure would be around 20% when you count all the personnel from TSW, 85wg, FLS, TSF & F Isle who have held/hold the Q for this range of work. This would be a far better case to explain diverse and flexible range of skills that TG18 Loggies have when comparing them to Army/Navy.
The truth is that everyone in the trade is capable of carrying out FSDs but not many have attitude to push themselves outside the comfort blanket(pun) of MOB main supply. Unfortunately, can,t see how controlling budgets, operating USAS terminals etc etc stand us apart from bulk standard stackers despite the hard work and work ethic of those envolved. (This is not intended to turn into fight over whose role is more important,s I have worked on both sides of the blanket and enjoyed them in equal measure).
 
Gillo said:
Suspect Trade Sponser is using wrong end of telescope re TSW. Its not how many are on the Wing but how many have worked in the Field Fuels role. Suspect figure would be around 20% when you count all the personnel from TSW, 85wg, FLS, TSF & F Isle who have held/hold the Q for this range of work. This would be a far better case to explain diverse and flexible range of skills that TG18 Loggies have when comparing them to Army/Navy.
The truth is that everyone in the trade is capable of carrying out FSDs but not many have attitude to push themselves outside the comfort blanket(pun) of MOB main supply. Unfortunately, can,t see how controlling budgets, operating USAS terminals etc etc stand us apart from bulk standard stackers despite the hard work and work ethic of those envolved. (This is not intended to turn into fight over whose role is more important,s I have worked on both sides of the blanket and enjoyed them in equal measure).
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I think your over simplification may just be doing the trade an injustice, I fully expect the WOs to be downgraded but then again I was gobsmacked that we were upgraded in the first place and the credit for that goes to just a few individuals who were involved at the time.

The range of work we (as a trade, not just WOs) do must make it mightily difficult for the JSJET to make a comparison and they have my sympathy. However, I would suggest that if all they looked at was the tactical role we would remain on the lower band, equally if all that was looked at wa the non-tac element the result would be the same. Our strength is in our diversity of skills, unless the TS herself understands all of the strands and presents a very robust case we are doomed both as far as the JSJET and the future viability of the trade are concerned.
 
All the people that have recently abused me will be pleased to know that I am being used as part of the Trade review......amazing that I actually care to try and get you guys that are staying in higher band. What a t**t I am eh? ha ha
 
Redundancy please said:
All the people that have recently abused me will be pleased to know that I am being used as part of the Trade review......amazing that I actually care to try and get you guys that are staying in higher band. What a t**t I am eh? ha ha
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Being part of the trade review doesn't make you less of a t**t it just means you are doing the job you are paid to do. Coming on here and posting that you are part of it and expecting anyone to give a poop that you care however does make you more of a t**t!!!

Enjoy the review I'm sure we'll all be sending you nice messages of thanks when we get put on the higher pay band!!! (dont hold your breath for either though will you!!)
 
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