Welcome to E-Goat :: The Totally Unofficial Royal Air Force Rumour Network
Join our free community to unlock a range of benefits like:
  • Post and participate in discussions.
  • Send and receive private messages with other members.
  • Respond to polls and surveys.
  • Upload and share content.
  • Gain access to exclusive features and tools.
Join 7.5K others today

Trade Sponsors

  • Thread starter Thread starter WorsethanJPA
  • Start date Start date
  • Following weeks of work, the E-GOAT team are delighted to present to you a new look to the forums with plenty of new features. Take a look around and see what you think!
Trending This Week
View More Trending
W

WorsethanJPA

Guest
I've just heard a damaging rumour, our beloved Trade Sponsors think that the Pers Admin trade should take more jobs on.
They are thinking about merging parts of the trade with Med Admin/Int and MT Admin - in effect turning us into 'Jack of all trades, master of none'.

Happy to be proved wrong, however what do my fellow scribblies think?
 
WorsethanJPA said:
I've just heard a damaging rumour, our beloved Trade Sponsors think that the Pers Admin trade should take more jobs on.
They are thinking about merging parts of the trade with Med Admin/Int and MT Admin - in effect turning us into 'Jack of all trades, master of none'.

Happy to be proved wrong, however what do my fellow scribblies think?
Click to expand...

theres been talk of this for ages....like where have you been???
 
PSFbeatch said:
theres been talk of this for ages....like where have you been???
Click to expand...

Correct. This has been on the cards ever since that well known tosser @ H Wycombe completed the RASS study. Let's face it folks, if the RAF could do without a uniformed HR presence, it would. They don't want us, don't like us, and I feel if it wasn't for the OOA commitment we've got, we would have been history a while ago.
These people will always choose 1 extra pilot over a couple of adminers. JPA was designed to be less HR dependant (I know it's not), in order for them to get rid of us. The Sponsor is probably just trying to save the Trade from extinction, by using us in different roles. That said, why is there a medic in every SMC just doing Docs??
 
Got speaking to a mate who is a Chf Clk, although JPA has increased our workload it would appear that SJAR will increase workloads by a further 30% at least. This is despite the 20% cut that we have already had. When inquiring about the trade review it has been decided that we will take a further 10% cut despite the extra jobs that JPA has caused.
 
RIGHTHANDSPANKER said:
Got speaking to a mate who is a Chf Clk, although JPA has increased our workload it would appear that SJAR will increase workloads by a further 30% at least. This is despite the 20% cut that we have already had. When inquiring about the trade review it has been decided that we will take a further 10% cut despite the extra jobs that JPA has caused.
Click to expand...

Doomed! We're all doomed! :PDT_Xtremez_42:

No surprise there then. Our workload has been steadily increasing since SAMA first came in and again, we are to do more work with less people. I have yet to see or hear of any admin post that has had a decrease in work since JPA came in. Does anyone know of such a post?
 
WorsethanJPA said:
I've just heard a damaging rumour, our beloved Trade Sponsors think that the Pers Admin trade should take more jobs on.
They are thinking about merging parts of the trade with Med Admin/Int and MT Admin - in effect turning us into 'Jack of all trades, master of none'.

Happy to be proved wrong, however what do my fellow scribblies think?
Click to expand...

Not a scribbly but can I just say welcome to the world of the multiskilled airman!!:PDT_Xtremez_19:
 
Boarderlyne said:
Doomed! We're all doomed! :PDT_Xtremez_42:

No surprise there then. Our workload has been steadily increasing since SAMA first came in and again, we are to do more work with less people. I have yet to see or hear of any admin post that has had a decrease in work since JPA came in. Does anyone know of such a post?
Click to expand...

Sec Sponsor's post probably.
 
Give It Time

Give It Time

Just give it a couple of years and just burrow our heads into the JPA desk manuals!! Admin is going exactly the same way as Chefs & MTD's a few years ago where once they had got rid of everyone they quickly realised that they had screwed the pooch and then spent 2002 - 2004 trying like hell to recruit as many back as they could persuade.

Once the almighty realise that JPAC is FUBAR'd it will only be a matter of time before some tosspot is going to come up with the idea that pay issues should really be dealt with by uniformed personnel at unit level. They will probably get their 2 star and medals out of it whilst the rest of us continue to beat our heads off of our desks at the sheer stupidity of it all.

In the meantime, as listed in the posts above, it is now a case of TG17 being made to look as productive as possible. Never mind that JPA is a bag of bollox, it's okay that we have had our numbers decimated, lets see what else can be tinkered with to screw us over. Still waiting to hear who the 1st RAF Pers Admin is going to be shafted onto in a RN or Army role because of their drastic decline in numbers. Anyone fancy a six month tour on board the love boat??

All I can say is AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I have just heard that they are going to establish blue suit jobs at Glasgow to assist the civil servants/temps in the pay office. Call me a cynic but did we not already have this at Innsworth? I cannot wait until they decide that a tri-service pay system is too expensive to run and introduce single service admin.
 
Boarderlyne said:
Doomed! We're all doomed! :PDT_Xtremez_42:

No surprise there then. Our workload has been steadily increasing since SAMA first came in and again, we are to do more work with less people. I have yet to see or hear of any admin post that has had a decrease in work since JPA came in. Does anyone know of such a post?
Click to expand...

My last posting did............ Oh sorry it got disestablished last April. Does that sound as less work, I got a posting (sorry again a new assignment) out of it and some civvy got what was left of the job.:PDT_Xtremez_28:
 
tommo9999 said:
Correct. This has been on the cards ever since that well known tosser @ H Wycombe completed the RASS study. Let's face it folks, if the RAF could do without a uniformed HR presence, it would. They don't want us, don't like us, and I feel if it wasn't for the OOA commitment we've got, we would have been history a while ago.
These people will always choose 1 extra pilot over a couple of adminers. JPA was designed to be less HR dependant (I know it's not), in order for them to get rid of us. The Sponsor is probably just trying to save the Trade from extinction, by using us in different roles. That said, why is there a medic in every SMC just doing Docs??
Click to expand...

we had some fat warrant officer come to our place who was from STC, Im not sure what he did but I know he was our trade,just before JPA was introduced, and he was the most ignorant man i think i have ever met.

We were voicing our general concerns about JPA, and all he could go on about was the future of tg17 and tac admin wg (ha ha ha) I left my briefing feeling more convinced that the air force is indeed run by monkeys! any hoo hes the one who told us that they were looking at put us in Med Centres. Personally, they absolutely reek at their job!

Our RMC asked in sro's for volunteers to come and help file fmed5's in fmed4's.....wait a minute whilst I jump out of my seat.... not!

are you the famous tommo ex tg17 sgt drafter, or is that someone else?
 
PSFbeatch said:
we had some fat warrant officer come to our place who was from STC, Im not sure what he did but I know he was our trade,just before JPA was introduced, and he was the most ignorant man i think i have ever met.

We were voicing our general concerns about JPA, and all he could go on about was the future of tg17 and tac admin wg (ha ha ha) I left my briefing feeling more convinced that the air force is indeed run by monkeys! any hoo hes the one who told us that they were looking at put us in Med Centres. Personally, they absolutely reek at their job!

Our RMC asked in sro's for volunteers to come and help file fmed5's in fmed4's.....wait a minute whilst I jump out of my seat.... not!

are you the famous tommo ex tg17 sgt drafter, or is that someone else?
Click to expand...

PSFbeatch I think you may find that the WO you saw was part of the Trade Sponsor's office.

As for your RMC asking for volunteers to assist in their filing they obviously don't really care about the term "MEDCIAL IN CONFIDENCE" Seeing as the FMed 4 contains a person's medical records.
 
PSFbeatch said:
Our RMC asked in sro's for volunteers to come and help file fmed5's in fmed4's.....wait a minute whilst I jump out of my seat.... not!
Click to expand...

I see an opportunity for finding out tons of embarrassing medical details and dilemma's whilst employed in this field...perhaps a little blackmail...:raf:
 
tommo9999 said:
Yes, that's me. I didn't know I was famous (Or infamous). That is unless I had to send you to a non-AOC that is!!
Click to expand...

I heard of you... Im only an SAC, but I often heard the seniors talk about you...did you enjoy it?? personally i would love reigning misery on others! i seem to be on the recieving end nearly 5 years in suicide central!
 
PSFbeatch said:
I heard of you... Im only an SAC, but I often heard the seniors talk about you...did you enjoy it?? personally i would love reigning misery on others! i seem to be on the recieving end nearly 5 years in suicide central!
Click to expand...


I've got to ask psfbeatch...I've read some/most of your posts that you've made so far and my question is this...Do you have a raincloud permanently over your head?

You sound like a grumpy old chief when you should be full of bright eyed enthusiasm and optimism...


Why do I feel like I should never have asked this...Doom inbound...:PDT_Xtremez_14:
 
PSFbeatch said:
I heard of you... Im only an SAC, but I often heard the seniors talk about you...did you enjoy it?? personally i would love reigning misery on others! i seem to be on the recieving end nearly 5 years in suicide central!
Click to expand...

Absolutely loved it. Very challenging job, but as with most jobs like that, very rewarding. Busy, busy and spent a fair amount of my time justifying my job to the heirarchy. Job satisfaction was tremendous, it's not often as a shiney you get the chance to help as much as I hope I was able to. Not exactly sure where suicide central is, for some it's High Wycombe, for others it's Innsworth etc etc. Keep smiling!!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top