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[PSFbeatch]

I've got to ask psfbeatch...I've read some/most of your posts that you've made so far and my question is this...Do you have a raincloud permanently over your head?

You sound like a grumpy old chief when you should be full of bright eyed enthusiasm and optimism...


Why do I feel like I should never have asked this...Doom inbound...DT_Xtremez_14:

lol ive been in 8 years and its been all doom and gloom some of it self inflicted some of it not and this jpa is just more gloom....

the raf as a whole seems like there is no logic, at the unit im at alike many others where accomodation is critical ie lots have people have spent lots of time in hotels and what do we do...?? we feel it necessary to splash out station radio? strange, i just dont get it

 

[vim_fuego]

lol ive been in 8 years and its been all doom and gloom some of it self inflicted some of it not and this jpa is just more gloom....

the raf as a whole seems like there is no logic, at the unit im at alike many others where accomodation is critical ie lots have people have spent lots of time in hotels and what do we do...?? we feel it necessary to splash out station radio? strange, i just dont get it

Take a step back and just look after your own little patch...If I sit at my desk and with the information available to me try to predict why the powers that be do what they do with manpower and resources blood begins to seep from my eyes and in the end my head just explodes!

In the end all our futures and 'careers' are controlled by the wind of change brought about by various senior officers ideas that are purely designed to get them one step more up the ladder and with scant regard for the consequences...

With this simple realisation you would think I would bash my paperwork in right now and apply to Tesco's tout sweet but as long as you realise that we all are pieces in these various peoples games and not to take it personally I can happily just plod on...It's never going to change and occaissionally you do get the odd good idea coming through...

Can't think of one at the moment but there must have been one...DT_Xtremez_17:

 

[PSFbeatch]

i do generally look after what ive got but ive only done 8 yrs and the raf has changed so much, look at what comes through halton, disrespectful undisciplined little poo heads who spoil it for the rest of us!

 

[PSFbeatch]

Absolutely loved it. Very challenging job, but as with most jobs like that, very rewarding. Busy, busy and spent a fair amount of my time justifying my job to the heirarchy. Job satisfaction was tremendous, it's not often as a shiney you get the chance to help as much as I hope I was able to. Not exactly sure where suicide central is, for some it's High Wycombe, for others it's Innsworth etc etc. Keep smiling!!

I cant not believe you had to justify your job! Who else would have done it? It often makes me chuckle when i hear people slate the drafters... the job must be thankless and enormous, they have no idea!

well ive tried bribing cheify with chocolates and allsorts but im still in the same place! i think he will come through for me though seems like a nice fella! other than that all i can do is keep smiling!

how are you finding germany?

 

[tommo9999]

I cant not believe you had to justify your job! Who else would have done it? It often makes me chuckle when i hear people slate the drafters... the job must be thankless and enormous, they have no idea!

well ive tried bribing cheify with chocolates and allsorts but im still in the same place! i think he will come through for me though seems like a nice fella! other than that all i can do is keep smiling!

how are you finding germany?

Chiefster is a top bloke, but you'll need to be quick - He's got Tranche 3 and finishes just before Xmas.

Germany is fantastic, so much more relaxed than PMA, got time to spend with my kids etc. And of course cheap beer, great travel, tax-free cars, great food .........
It.s definitely not suicide central.

 

[woollymouse]

i do generally look after what ive got but ive only done 8 yrs and the raf has changed so much, look at what comes through halton, disrespectful undisciplined little poo heads who spoil it for the rest of us!

If you think the new arrivals are that bad when they get to their permenant Units just imagine that they are like when they turn up at Halton, believe me they are an improvement by the time they are allowed to escape training.

 

[PSFbeatch]

If you think the new arrivals are that bad when they get to their permenant Units just imagine that they are like when they turn up at Halton, believe me they are an improvement by the time they are allowed to escape training.

why are we letting them through then... surely it should be quality not quantityalthough i cant talk they let me through lol!

 

[woollymouse]

DOn't ask me ask some one who works in an AFCO. Coupled with the fact that you can only take what civvy street throws at you.

 

[PSFbeatch]

DOn't ask me ask some one who works in an AFCO. Coupled with the fact that you can only take what civvy street throws at you.

very sad sorry state of affairs

 

[tag_lincoln]

Back to the original multiskilling idea, more variety, more options, better cv. Help justify trade existence as well.

 

[stato]

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[woollymouse]

Back to the original multiskilling idea, more variety, more options, better cv. Help justify trade existence as well.

Unless of course you are Med Admin.

 

[Notsoblunt]

Some things never change

Some things never change

Being one of those knackered old sweats who remembers working with a kardex, poster 64, the old Q6's for working out pay and gate counts, I feel qualified to say that 'moving the goal posts' for our particular specialisation is nothing new. There must be more of you out there who, like me, can remember when TG17 was just that - a group of different admin related trades - and not just Pers Admin.

Personally, I am glad that I was lucky to be selected for Tranche 3 and will soon be out of this madness. Some may see this as jumping ship, and they would be right in many respects. Having been through it soooo many times in the past, I for one am not prepared to do so again!

PS: Tommo - thanks for sorting out my current posting before buggering off to Deutschland.......... Didn't know then that this would turn out to be my last tour, but cheers again matey!

 

[MoDoc]

Sorry did I read it correctly. Tommo was proud to help!!!!!!DT_Xtremez_31: Dont make me choke again, please.

 

[tommo9999]

PS: Tommo - thanks for sorting out my current posting before buggering off to Deutschland.......... Didn't know then that this would turn out to be my last tour, but cheers again matey!

You're welcome, at least 1 happy customer in 5 years!! Good luck in civvy street.

 

[Notsoblunt]

Doomed! We're all doomed! DT_Xtremez_42:

No surprise there then. Our workload has been steadily increasing since SAMA first came in and again, we are to do more work with less people. I have yet to see or hear of any admin post that has had a decrease in work since JPA came in. Does anyone know of such a post?

Mine! But then I am 8,000 miles from the UK, with no other RAF personnel for at least 3,500 miles and only have a crusty old army colonel to convince that JPA is a bad thing.

Perhaps the lack of JPA is why I've just been told that when I return to the UK later this year (for discharge under tranche 3 of the RAF redundancies) that this post will be disbanded!

 

[True Blue Jack]

I've just heard a damaging rumour, our beloved Trade Sponsors think that the Pers Admin trade should take more jobs on.
They are thinking about merging parts of the trade with Med Admin/Int and MT Admin - in effect turning us into 'Jack of all trades, master of none'.

Happy to be proved wrong, however what do my fellow scribblies think?

PSFbeatch and others are right - this has been going around for ages. It's all about job protection, just like TG4 was about finding a job for TCOs once we started using e-mail instead of signals.

Last I heard DGMS had put the mokkers on us working as Med Centre receptionists - apparently working in P1, Top Secret registries, etc., doesn't prove we can keep our mouths shut about medical records . . .

One note of caution: I believe the WO Sec Sponsor is an e-goat member. No matter what your personal opinion (I've not met him yet) I don't think it's a good idea to call him a fat, lazy, useless w@nker on a public forum. Sorry, bo!!ocking over.

 

[True Blue Jack]

are you the famous tommo ex tg17 sgt drafter, or is that someone else?

Did you really have to ask? Look at Tommo's location . . . only ex-drafters get overseas postings now.

OMG what have I said? Are there any posts left in Saxa Vord? I'm going to start packing.DT_Xtremez_42:

 

[tommo9999]

Did you really have to ask? Look at Tommo's location . . . only ex-drafters get overseas postings now.

OMG what have I said? Are there any posts left in Saxa Vord? I'm going to start packing.DT_Xtremez_42:

Saxa Vord is lovely this time of year. Send me a postcard.

 

[True Blue Jack]

Being one of those knackered old sweats who remembers working with a kardex, poster 64, the old Q6's for working out pay and gate counts, I feel qualified to say that 'moving the goal posts' for our particular specialisation is nothing new. There must be more of you out there who, like me, can remember when TG17 was just that - a group of different admin related trades - and not just Pers Admin.

Ahhh, yes. Clerk Sec, Clerk Accts, Clerk GD, Typist, Data An, Court Recorder - not to mention the RAF GD/RAF Admin that we absorbed a few years back.

I'm not being nostalgic, I just remember my grandfather telling me all about it!

It's funny, but when the job evaluations were being done before P2K, I asked CASWO if any consideration would be made for the sheer versatility of our trade. I never did get an answer.