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Banned Substances etc.....?

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this may be controversial but is this not a case of the forces fitness policy and the lack of hands on guidance being a bit more serious than some people getting a bit tubby and not getting the required bleeps every six months.

some people need a poke to get them moving.

some people need holding back before they go too far and become so gym addicted that they are willing to take potentially dangerous substances just so that they can squeeze in a harder workout.

maybe if everyone had daily supervised pt sessions both extremes could be marginalised.
 
briggfairy said:
this may be controversial but is this not a case of the forces fitness policy and the lack of hands on guidance being a bit more serious than some people getting a bit tubby and not getting the required bleeps every six months.

some people need a poke to get them moving.

some people need holding back before they go too far and become so gym addicted that they are willing to take potentially dangerous substances just so that they can squeeze in a harder workout.

maybe if everyone had daily supervised pt sessions both extremes could be marginalised.
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Some of our guys whilst deployed this year had same issue. Jack 3 d and grenade are definitely banned, reason I know this is because I went to recent cdt presentation. Do not bother with PTIs as most do not know. Med centre will refer you to list of banned substances on uk sport, which was what cdt recommended when I asked them. The days of the RAF paying only £90 for drugs tests have long long gone.

Hope this helps was all relevant as of July 2012
 
There must be a proper policy on this though? Surely there is a definitive list published?

Anyone currently on CDT duty who can shed some light on what they actually test for ?
 
In the CDT declaration, the subject is asked if any supplements are taken.
 
JTforever said:
There must be a proper policy on this though? Surely there is a definitive list published?

Anyone currently on CDT duty who can shed some light on what they actually test for ?
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Come on....let's not let all the secrets out the bag eh?

Mr SCJ
 
surely the big thing is if your not sure if you should be taking it don't take it, it's not like its a life saving drug its simply to let you do a bit more work in the gym.
 
As far as I was aware, Grenade purchased in the UK is ok. It's the stuff from Stateside that has the banned ingredients. Of course, this is something I can't back up with facts so don't take it as gospel.
 
SORRY CJ said:
No its not quite like that.

You are asked if you have taken any prescription or non prescription drugs. There is nothing about sups.

Mr SCJ
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We were instructed by the WO in charge of the CDT team to ask this, despite it not being on the card. This was about a month ago.
 
metimmee said:
We were instructed by the WO in charge of the CDT team to ask this, despite it not being on the card. This was about a month ago.
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That guy is a mess. He shouldn't be in charge of the CDT. I always thought it was a admin posting for someone with some cred..... I was wrong. I saw him send a sinbin guy to his room to pack a bag telling him he was going to take him on the road with him seen as his he couldn't wee (bloke was on his second go just) I left soon after that so I don't know what happened.

Now I don't believe there is anyone who needs to take any of this ****. Ffs none of you are bloody Olympic athletes. Just eat a bloody good diet and train. However I do agree that for those who do wish to take them there ought to be a definitive list of what is legal or not. Especially when supplements are so easily sourced by people who don't know what they should be taking the for.
 
metimmee said:
We were instructed by the WO in charge of the CDT team to ask this, despite it not being on the card. This was about a month ago.
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Looks like that idiot of WO is making it up as he's going on then....Do you still have that bl00dy vids playing?

Mr SCJ
 
RAF Bird said:
That guy is a mess. He shouldn't be in charge of the CDT. I always thought it was a admin posting for someone with some cred..... I was wrong. I saw him send a sinbin guy to his room to pack a bag telling him he was going to take him on the road with him seen as his he couldn't wee (bloke was on his second go just) I left soon after that so I don't know what happened.
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I heard that the gay sounding buffoon was off to Mod De&S Iss Corsham. Maybe they got wind he was coming and f***ed him off and gave the job to someone who could do it without a bulling attitude and the stamping of feet temper tantrums if he didn’t get his own way.
He was deploying an Army trick that’s used to scare people into weeing, but here are other ways to get the job done though.

Trust me I know.....and I'll say no more.

Mr SCJ
 
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