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Rocket_Ronster said:
To go back to the LNER driver, how does he avoid it ?
And why a couple of weeks from now ?
And how will a bloke in his own enviroment save the world while thousands are thronging like its spawning time ?
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He doesn't. If he's told to do something he should do it.

The couple of weeks is probably around giving companies, industry and people the chance to aquire some PPE as it's been 'hogged' by the care sector until now and behind the scenes the stocks are now building up. If they say 'tomorrow' you can imagine the panic and heartache that will ensue. The infection levels are coming down and this new guidance is around enduringly keeping that happening...plus its likely to be a conditioning exercise for the new normal in time for Autumn into winter and a potential second wave in amongst the usual flu bugs....if we get used to masking up the spread of both C19 and flu will be reduced in theory.

Your last point...because you should do what you need to do. I don;t mark myself by others activities. I think that's called integrity? Again I make judgement calls because like many of you, I understand cross-infection from my mil days. If I know I can't possibly catch it because I am in the middle of a field then I won't mask up...If it seems like I can't 100% make that call, like in a train cab, then I guess I'll mask up. The previous driver may not have been as clean as me perhaps?
 
It's strange because looking at the WHO website it says if you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask when:

Taking care of a person who has Covid 19

If you are coughing or sneezing

That's it.
 
ninjarabbi said:
It's strange because looking at the WHO website it says if you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask when:

Taking care of a person who has Covid 19

If you are coughing or sneezing

That's it.
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There is nothing wrong with having stricter rules than the WHO, laxer rules are a different matter.
 
Barch said:
There is nothing wrong with having stricter rules than the WHO, laxer rules are a different matter.
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That's what I am talking about...take responsibility for yourself. The minimum is laid down and you embellish to suit you .
 
This was posted on Boris Johnson’s Twitter account a short time ago. F**k off Boris. You’ve allowed thousands of people to protest in London and you still think we’re going to listen to you?

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From what I've seen recently, people are wearing them and pulling them down, pulling them up ad nauseum which totally defeats the point of wearing them. IMO, they are nothing but a comfort blanket for folks who think it will stop them catching it when in reality, it's to stop them transmitting. Don't forget to wash your hands now :)
 
Sticks said:
From what I've seen recently, people are wearing them and pulling them down, pulling them up ad nauseum which totally defeats the point of wearing them. IMO, they are nothing but a comfort blanket for folks who think it will stop them catching it when in reality, it's to stop them transmitting. Don't forget to wash your hands now :)
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On that point its absolutely true...I see people in shops who arrive in gloves, do their shop, pay then leave the shop, get in their car and drive off all wearing the same gloves, carrying anything virus from the shop into their car then home. I also see people who wear masks that don't fit in shops who then pull them down to speak to others. Aside from coughing or sneezing speaking is the only other opportunity for you to emit from your mouth...They simply don;t understand how to use PPE and perhaps that's what the next set of gov adverts need to concentrate on...or would the actual amount of gloves and masks you'll actually need to do it properly scare most people?
 
Vim_Fuego said:
On that point its absolutely true...I see people in shops who arrive in gloves, do their shop, pay then leave the shop, get in their car and drive off all wearing the same gloves, carrying anything virus from the shop into their car then home. I also see people who wear masks that don't fit in shops who then pull them down to speak to others. Aside from coughing or sneezing speaking is the only other opportunity for you to emit from your mouth...They simply don;t understand how to use PPE and perhaps that's what the next set of gov adverts need to concentrate on...or would the actual amount of gloves and masks you'll actually need to do it properly scare most people?
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More than likely. Gloves are purely to prevent cross contamination but folks will wear them all day, passing from surface to surface.. :rolleyes:. Off Topic Vim, I remembered my password for cooheed as it is the same for proone. But it still doesn't work. Can you message me for a full reset, or give TW a kick up the arse to do it? Ta
 
Sticks said:
Off Topic Vim, I remembered my password for cooheed as it is the same for proone. But it still doesn't work. Can you message me for a full reset, or give TW a kick up the arse to do it? Ta
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Assuming we have the correct email a password reset has been sent.
 
So...we have a vaccine.

The first effective coronavirus vaccine can prevent more than 90% of people from getting Covid-19, a preliminary analysis shows.
The developers - Pfizer and BioNTech - described it as a "great day for science and humanity".
Their vaccine has been tested on 43,500 people in six countries and no safety concerns have been raised.
The companies plan to apply for emergency approval to use the vaccine by the end of the month.
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www.bbc.co.uk

Covid vaccine: First 'milestone' vaccine offers 90% protection

The vaccine is a "significant step" forward for getting life back to normal, but challenges remain.
www.bbc.co.uk

Thoughts?
 
Where do I sign. Large sample size of 43,000+ no reported side effects bring it on.
 
J Y Kelly said:
Thalidomide was first marketed October 1, 1957 and withdrawn 2 December 1961. Hardly a generation.
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Wasnt a vaccine either.

Tempted, might even get it early as they were asking for plan today.
 
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Didn't have to be - Thalidomide was given to pregnant women to ease morning sickness. The disastrous side effects were seen quite quickly although it took a while for the connection to be made and proven - hence 1957 - 1961. IIRC, however, there were some 2nd generation cases of malformity as well (i.e. children of of the originally afflicted generation).

Whilst i would probably risk the vaccine myself, i could understand anybody with non-standard health or pregnant having reservations about a medicine introduced so rapidly.
 
I'm in. How many of us unquestionably held out our arms for God knows how many vaccines when we first joined then continued to accept them throughout our services. Different scenario granted, but I actually didn't have a fooking clue what most of them were at the time.

Too much tin foil hat shizzle going around at the moment. Despite your political leaning you must accept that vaccines come from the scientific sector, are independently assessed and approved and no government on earth (except in Russia and China apparently) would give their voters something that is likely to kill or maim them to gain political points.

We have to get on with this.
 
Vim_Fuego said:
I'm in. How many of us unquestionably held out our arms for God knows how many vaccines when we first joined then continued to accept them throughout our services. Different scenario granted, but I actually didn't have a fooking clue what most of them were at the time.

Too much tin foil hat shizzle going around at the moment. Despite your political leaning you must accept that vaccines come from the scientific sector, are independently assessed and approved and no government on earth (except in Russia and China apparently) would give their voters something that is likely to kill or maim them to gain political points.

We have to get on with this.
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I refused mine for GW1.
Looking back I'm bloody glad I did.

As on t'other thread, never be first, never be last, never volunteer.
 
Had all mine for GW1, been a serial volunteer all my life and have had a great experience so far. Lots of new experiences that without volunteering I'd have missed out on.

Take a chance and you'll never know where it may lead.
 
Only one i turned down was the anthrax one, at the time I was in a screened operational role and wasn’t going anywhere near the pointy end of anything,
 
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