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GD ON WHEELS said:
Will be interesting to see if there will be a Covid-19 spike in the next few days.
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Isn't London already one of the Covid hotspots? I see the police in Hackney had to break up a street party last night with upwards of 500 people attending it.
 
The way the idiots are carrying on they will soon kill themselves off and I have no sympathies whatsoever, it is the collateral infections that I feel for.
 
Barch said:
The way the idiots are carrying on they will soon kill themselves off and I have no sympathies whatsoever, it is the collateral infections that I feel for.
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Today's protest would seem tailor made to become a corona spread event. Marches Cheltenham festival horse racing meeting and Liverpool's European football match v Athletico Madrid both became opportunities for the virus to spread amongst a large group collected in one place and then dispersed around the local area. If the figures are correct around 15,000 gathered together today with minimum regard for social distancing. The stats say that certain ethnic groups are more likely to suffer badly from the effects of Covid 19. Now I get why they are protesting and yes they are angry, but the aftermath of today's gathering could be a spike in Covid 19 patients in an ethnic group that really doesn't need it, not perhaps the younger elements of the crowd who were there but their extended families away from the event could be hard hit.
 
Are they aware of how Memorial Day in Chicago went? If one black man being killed makes them angry this should push them to incandescence.

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GD ON WHEELS said:
Will be interesting to see if there will be a Covid-19 spike in the next few days.
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It absolutely will...and whilst I think you refer to there being one in this case the converse is equally as interesting. What if there isn't? You could almost take that as vindication for current lifting of constraints and probably to go further? If you take this and the Durdle Door incident and the number of people who in the last few weeks of sunny weather have thrown caution to the wind and packed other tourist spots, had BBQ's, lock-ins and other activities that busting the social distancing guidelines took place and we see no spike it might demonstrate we can go faster in the unlocking.
 
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Talk Wrench said:
Meanwhile, there are now allegations emerging that the virus was perhaps "manipulated" and released from a Chinese lab "by accident"

www.independent.co.uk

Former MI6 head claims pandemic 'started as accident' in Chinese laboratory

Sir Richard Dearlove cites study by researchers claiming to have found ‘inserted’ elements in virus
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk

As per the article, the debate is shifting...
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This part is interesting

The study had been rejected by various journals and rewritten several times to remove accusatory claims about China before it was published in the Quarterly Review of Biophysics Discovery, according to The Telegraph. Initial co-author John Fredrik Moxnes, a chief scientific adviser to the Norwegian military, reportedly asked for his name to be removed.
 
From the 15th of this month it will be mandatory to wear a mask whilst travelling on public transport in the U.K. Is the government now just flailing around with its policies? A MP on Talkradio this morning stating that ‘track and trace’ may not be available until September or October and we may have to be ‘locked down’ until then.

Sorry minister but with all these morons out on the street protesting I think ‘lockdown’ I pretty much over.
 
ninjarabbi said:
From the 15th of this month it will be mandatory to wear a mask whilst travelling on public transport in the U.K. Is the government now just flailing around with its policies? A MP on Talkradio this morning stating that ‘track and trace’ may not be available until September or October and we may have to be ‘locked down’ until then.

Sorry minister but with all these morons out on the street protesting I think ‘lockdown’ I pretty much over.
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I think the advice around not having to wear a mask in various places [for the general public] has been lead by the supply of masks needing to go to the care sector and the fact that until recently we shouldn't have been within 2 metres of anyone. It's calming down in care homes and hospitals now and stocks in the UK must be rising because of it so they can encourage the wider donning of them.

It's not as if you couldn't before...but most of the people I have seen wearing them down here in Cornwall were wasting them e.g. bloke in middle of field about 100m away from me walking his dog on his own had one on...no fecking point. Bloke driving his van on his won...no fecking point.
 
Vim_Fuego said:
I think the advice around not having to wear a mask in various places [for the general public] has been lead by the supply of masks needing to go to the care sector and the fact that until recently we shouldn't have been within 2 metres of anyone. It's calming down in care homes and hospitals now and stocks in the UK must be rising because of it so they can encourage the wider donning of them.

It's not as if you couldn't before...but most of the people I have seen wearing them down here in Cornwall were wasting them e.g. bloke in middle of field about 100m away from me walking his dog on his own had one on...no fecking point. Bloke driving his van on his won...no fecking point.
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Just been listening to a WHO YT video and their advice is that the average person does not need to wear a mask. In other news, apparently bald men are more at risk of dying from Covid 19.

Just stop. Please, just stop.
 
ninjarabbi said:
From the 15th of this month it will be mandatory to wear a mask whilst travelling on public transport in the U.K.
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Not quite, England only.
So if you drive for LNER you can take your train out of Edinboro, but as soon as you cross the border you have to put your mask on. Even though you're Sat in your own cab, separate from all, with your own aircon system.
 
So you wait at the packed bus stop, with no mask on. Bus comes along you slip your mask on. Get off at destination, then take mask off and go and do shopping or office work. What's the point.
 
Some upbeat news from ONS

Test and trace programmes were introduced in England and Scotland last week to track contacts of new cases.

The number of people infected with coronavirus in homes in England has fallen to 5,600 a day, from 8,000 last week.

The estimate is based on swab tests of 19,000 people in 9,000 households by the Office for National Statistics.

Some scientists have said reaching a low level of cases was key to easing the lockdown further.
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www.bbc.co.uk

Virus cases down to 5,600 a day, household survey suggests

The estimate is based on swab tests of people living in 9,000 households in England.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
On the topic of anything to do with C19 I think people need to stop acting like fecking petulant children and get on with it. If they say masks on public transport then put one on...if its busy at a bus stop and you can't socially distance and you are worried about it put one on...you'll be carrying it for the bus journey anyway. In summary if you feel uncomfortable about the situation avoid it or take measures to makeit better for you. In other less virussy times the usual complaint is of a 'nanny state' and now guidance is being handed out it's all 'we don;t what you mean and I am going to sh1t my pants and bleat a fcukton in protest of you not giving me a step by step arse wiping guide.

On the topic of cross border travel then yest you'll have to put one on as you cross over into a new set of rules for that country. We are not living in normal times so expect to do some stuff that doesn't feel normal?

On that topic...So NI, Wales and Scotland do their own thing around setting rules and guidance right? They say how many people can meet up and where and when to don a mask or not for example right? That means that their 'R' and any subsequent deaths are affected by their output on those matters? If that is the case why do we bundle them up at the 5 o'clock briefing into a single report on deaths (on the COBR slides) then lump it all on Bo-Jo's lap? He can't influence how Wee Nippy is running things nor the Druids or Paddys? Wee Nippy has been her usual nationalistic thorn in his side...just doing enough to show that Scotland is doing its own thing whilst not really doing much at all.
 
Vim_Fuego said:
On the topic of anything to do with C19 I think people need to stop acting like fecking petulant children and get on with it. If they say masks on public transport then put one on...if its busy at a bus stop and you can't socially distance and you are worried about it put one on...you'll be carrying it for the bus journey anyway. In summary if you feel uncomfortable about the situation avoid it or take measures to makeit better for you. In other less virussy times the usual complaint is of a 'nanny state' and now guidance is being handed out it's all 'we don;t what you mean and I am going to sh1t my pants and bleat a fcukton in protest of you not giving me a step by step arse wiping guide.

On the topic of cross border travel then yest you'll have to put one on as you cross over into a new set of rules for that country. We are not living in normal times so expect to do some stuff that doesn't feel normal?

On that topic...So NI, Wales and Scotland do their own thing around setting rules and guidance right? They say how many people can meet up and where and when to don a mask or not for example right? That means that their 'R' and any subsequent deaths are affected by their output on those matters? If that is the case why do we bundle them up at the 5 o'clock briefing into a single report on deaths (on the COBR slides) then lump it all on Bo-Jo's lap? He can't influence how Wee Nippy is running things nor the Druids or Paddys? Wee Nippy has been her usual nationalistic thorn in his side...just doing enough to show that Scotland is doing its own thing whilst not really doing much at all.
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The point I'm making is that you should wear one all the time.
 
Vim_Fuego said:
On the topic of anything to do with C19 I think people need to stop acting like fecking petulant children and get on with it. If they say masks on public transport then put one on...if its busy at a bus stop and you can't socially distance and you are worried about it put one on...you'll be carrying it for the bus journey anyway. In summary if you feel uncomfortable about the situation avoid it or take measures to makeit better for you. In other less virussy times the usual complaint is of a 'nanny state' and now guidance is being handed out it's all 'we don;t what you mean and I am going to sh1t my pants and bleat a fcukton in protest of you not giving me a step by step arse wiping guide.

On the topic of cross border travel then yest you'll have to put one on as you cross over into a new set of rules for that country. We are not living in normal times so expect to do some stuff that doesn't feel normal?

On that topic...So NI, Wales and Scotland do their own thing around setting rules and guidance right? They say how many people can meet up and where and when to don a mask or not for example right? That means that their 'R' and any subsequent deaths are affected by their output on those matters? If that is the case why do we bundle them up at the 5 o'clock briefing into a single report on deaths (on the COBR slides) then lump it all on Bo-Jo's lap? He can't influence how Wee Nippy is running things nor the Druids or Paddys? Wee Nippy has been her usual nationalistic thorn in his side...just doing enough to show that Scotland is doing its own thing whilst not really doing much at all.
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To go back to the LNER driver, how does he avoid it ?
And why a couple of weeks from now ?
And how will a bloke in his own enviroment save the world while thousands are thronging like its spawning time ?
 
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