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Euro 2012

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Trusty Adjusty said:
Just don't be there at the victory celebrations when we eventually succeed - you won't be welcome.
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I don't think I have that long to live (and I'm fit and healthy!)

I was disappointed when Rooney strolled back into the team...It was like turning back the clocks to any other England manager that continually picked some big names entirely based on fame not form and yet again he doesn't deliver, looked slow and gave the ball away along with the rest of the team within a few nanoseconds of receiving it. Brian Clough once said 'you can't score goals if you don't have possession'...a simple and obvious statement that we seemed to ignore.

Ashley Cole once again did feck all and he's another survivor of the last bunch that also failed to achieve at International level. Gerard ran his socks off but is just too slow these days.

Caroll once on received the ball and held onto it from the usual England tactic of long ball and hope but once he had it had no options...same for Rooney as well...once the ball was momentarily in the Italian half and at the feet of an Englishmen there was little to be done with it so it was tunrover.

I don't know what else with the current bunch of players Hodgson could have done...You only have the tools you have in your box and ours are still not good enough for the job...Most of the played with heart and gave their all but in the end if you're not good enough then you're just not good enough.

Ashley Cole...Did anyone notice his eyes when he walked up to his penalty? The wouldn't keep still...He was totally distracted flitting them left and right...I don't think he had a clue due to mental overload where he was going to put it so what came out of it was a poor penalty.
 
Trusty Adjusty said:
I don't care whether you agree with my opinion or not, I would like you to support your country, stop being a c**t and show some patriotism. No doubt you're the same clown who would be bouncing off the ceiling, beer in hand telling anyone who'd listen - "told you so" had we won the tournament.

Keep your negative comments, you're entitled to them. Just don't be there at the victory celebrations when we eventually succeed - you won't be welcome.
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You'll be six feet under when that happens, and so will I. We won't win anything until the fundemental way football is played in the England team changes, can't see it changing whilst we've got legions of people like you who continually apologise for atrocious performances.

I don't blame Roy, like others have said he did the best with what he had.

If I was as bad at work as some of these idiots I'd be dismissed for incompetence, but because the primadonnas kick a football around a pitch for millions a year somehow failure is okay.
 
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I was impressed how they came back from being 1-2 against Sweden.
Cant say I was impressed how they failed to close down Pirlo , guess the days of man marking are long gone.
Thought Stevie G did a great captain´s job , ran himself into the ground.
Roll on Brazil :-)
 
10 Years ago Spain and Germany invested in skills coaches for the youths of the team, today they are winning tornaments.

The FA having spent £700m on a stage are now investing in the actors to go on it, so in 10 years time we may have a competitive team, until then we'll be last 8 and a disappointed nation.

This tournament we did as good as can be expected, if not a bit better, and at least now I stop watching the games.
 
busby1971 said:
10 Years ago Spain and Germany invested in skills coaches for the youths of the team, today they are winning tornaments.

The FA having spent £700m on a stage are now investing in the actors to go on it, so in 10 years time we may have a competitive team, until then we'll be last 8 and a disappointed nation.s
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The FA did have a school of excellence just a few miles up the road from us here at Cosford in the Lilleshall academy. The players used to go to the local school in Shifnal. But it closed aroubd about 2002 and theyve done nothing since, the St Georges fields project may be a step in the right direction.

Germany should be our template IMHO, theyve never had a a Messi, Ronaldo or Maradonna but apart from a blip in tge last decade which as you say they are now addressing they have always produced teams that are machines, more than the sum of its parts. Their players are confident on the ball and with each other and as a result wear three world cup stars on their shirts not a paltry one.
 
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shock... horror :-) wasnt it so long a go Stevie G was in an England team that came to Munich and stuffed the Germans 5-1...ah the good old days :-)
 
Very Heavy very Humble said:
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shock... horror :-) wasnt it so long a go Stevie G was in an England team that came to Munich and stuffed the Germans 5-1...ah the good old days :-)[/QUOTE]

11 years ago, may have been 1966.. Germans changed much of their basic youth structure after that.. and will reap the rewards because of it.
 
Yes Germany are a realy strong unit, with or without their 'star' players, at least they actually put in a full 90 minutes (and by that I mean the whole team, not just a few brave individuals)

I don't know what a winning side must look like as I'm not a Professional Football coach on millions a year, all I know is that when I see Germany play they always look like they might win (even if they don't) whereas England always look like they might lose (even if they don't).

Keeping hold of the ball might be the first place to start.
 
Apparently Englands next game isn't until August and we play




Italy:PDT_Xtremez_42:
 
Tin basher said:
Apparently Englands next game isn't until August and we play




Italy:PDT_Xtremez_42:
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They need a game against a team that they should have a decent positive game against so that they can get some confidence back.

Maybe the U16 Tongan One Legged Girls Team.
 
Barch said:
They need a game against a team that they should have a decent positive game against so that they can get some confidence back.

Maybe the U16 Tongan One Legged Girls Team.
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On current form, they'd struggle with that one.
 
propersplitbrainme said:
And England are really in a position to look down on Scotland why now? :PDT_Xtremez_42::PDT_Xtremez_31:
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Current FIFA World rankings have England 6th (behind Spain, Uruguay, Germany, Holland and Brazil) and Scotland 41st (behind Algeria, Peru, Venezuela and one place ahead of perennial football powerhouses Libya).

That's why :PDT_Xtremez_30:

We might be sh!t right now, but still not as sh!t as Scotland:PDT_Xtremez_31:
 
Very Heavy very Humble said:
Thought Stevie G did a great captain´s job , ran himself into the ground.
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A great captains job, yes, in that he didn`t shag anyone elses wife or call anyone ethnically challenged.
But as a player he epitomises everything wrong with our game. Watch him play, about every third ball he receives he tries to spray 60yards out wide, a`la Hollywood stylee. Watch the Germans, the ball never leaves the ground, literally.
And as to running himself into the ground, nobody can deny him and Parker worked hard, but did they work smart ? Did they foook.
 
Rocket_Ronster said:
A great captains job, yes, in that he didn`t shag anyone elses wife or call anyone ethnically challenged.
But as a player he epitomises everything wrong with our game. Watch him play, about every third ball he receives he tries to spray 60yards out wide, a`la Hollywood stylee. Watch the Germans, the ball never leaves the ground, literally.
And as to running himself into the ground, nobody can deny him and Parker worked hard, but did they work smart ? Did they foook.
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It wasnt Gerrard's fault that there was so little movement around him that he was forced to play long balls to try and create something. Gerrard as a player has passed his best but all the punters Ive read and listened to agree he was our most infuential player in the tournament.
 
Rocket_Ronster said:
A great captains job, yes, in that he didn`t shag anyone elses wife or call anyone ethnically challenged.
But as a player he epitomises everything wrong with our game. Watch him play, about every third ball he receives he tries to spray 60yards out wide, a`la Hollywood stylee. Watch the Germans, the ball never leaves the ground, literally.
And as to running himself into the ground, nobody can deny him and Parker worked hard, but did they work smart ? Did they foook.
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I dont think he had many options when in possesion of the ball, no-one making a run for him or making themselves available for the short pass.
I think there was a lot more to his game than spraying the 60 yard pass. Wasnt so long ago Gerrard was in a team that thumped the Germans 5-1 in Munich.
 
Very Heavy very Humble said:
I dont think he had many options when in possesion of the ball, no-one making a run for him or making themselves available for the short pass.
I think there was a lot more to his game than spraying the 60 yard pass. Wasnt so long ago Gerrard was in a team that thumped the Germans 5-1 in Munich.
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In football terms it was a playing generation ago. It was September 2001.

The England team was Seaman, G Neville, Ferdinand, Campbell, A Cole, Barmby, Scholes, Gerrard, Beckham, Heskey, Owen.

Any player that stays in the national team for that length of time is either brilliant or the choice of players is limited.
 
Barch said:
In football terms it was a playing generation ago. It was September 2001.

The England team was Seaman, G Neville, Ferdinand, Campbell, A Cole, Barmby, Scholes, Gerrard, Beckham, Heskey, Owen.

Any player that stays in the national team for that length of time is either brilliant or the choice of players is limited.
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Agreed a while ago but the game is still fresh in my mind :-)
I would say that Cole and Gerrard would fit within your first choice.
thanks for posting the line up....oh happy days
 
Very Heavy very Humble said:
Agreed a while ago but the game is still fresh in my mind :-)
I would say that Cole and Gerrard would fit within your first choice.
thanks for posting the line up....oh happy days
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I don't follow football but what I would say is that the choice is limited or more probably the coach is scared to venture outside the premiership during his scouting duties.
 
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