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effinhell said:
If however you are a CM/PSF/VIP type then you stand a far better chance than the others, as you would know! so stfu

and for those who don't agree then no probs - opinions are like arseholes remember - everyone has one but please explain how a CM of 3 1/2 years in one job gets his wobbly - and stays at HW of course - while others outwith the Manning environment who have a lot more experience and diverse jobs don't get near him on the board and when they get offered it's to some sh!t hole.....interesting eh........ it's all part of their master plan - line up the jobs for themselves, change dates to suit...it stinks TBH
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I believe we have discussed this previously - statistically the greatest majority of FS are employed within those areas so of course any board will seem to favour them.

That said Eff (correctly spelt this time:PDT_Xtremez_28:) I am interested in your definition of experience. Are you suggesting those with more time in rank (and by default more tours) are more experienced/better clerks than those like the afore-mentioned CM?. My point being, only the PSB have the full picture so are we really qualified to judge? However if you are just b*tchin then crack on!
 
KingGuin said:
I believe we have discussed this previously - statistically the greatest majority of FS are employed within those areas so of course any board will seem to favour them.

That said Eff (correctly spelt this time:PDT_Xtremez_28:) I am interested in your definition of experience. Are you suggesting those with more time in rank (and by default more tours) are more experienced/better clerks than those like the afore-mentioned CM?. My point being, only the PSB have the full picture so are we really qualified to judge? However if you are just b*tchin then crack on!
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Hey just giving a view from outside the 'majority' that's all. 3 1/2 yrs as a FS in one job = soon to be WO over someone who has done over 5 (probably nearer 6) and 3 jobs - surely a bit unfair.

So what if I am suggesting those with a wider knowledge base are better clerks than a CM - not everyone wants to be a CM and I know it's a difficult job but come on! - 3 1/2 years in the same job versus 6 years or so in 2 or 3 jobs + president of board says too many people in one job etc..... but then they come off board higher? Hypocrisy or what?

Not b!tchin merely stating an opinion on something. As you say PSB have full facts, but I know people aren't too happy and this has been discussed previously. As stated before, I understand someone has even started a service complaint although I think this is a little bit far IMO.

Cheers and back to work tomorrow to find one of those holy grail jobs.....
 
The promotion system as it stands will never please everyone because it is not measurable, by that I mean it does not allow for some direct comparison between jobs and employment areas. I suppose that is the role of the specialist to try and ensure that sufficient weight is given to areas that are deemed to be more challenging than others. It will never be perfect.
 
Fair enough Eff, we all have an opinion and a right to express it. I was curious as I was picked up from a PSF tour with 3 years seniority. While I had 2 tours, 2 OOAs and 3 periods of acting rank in those 3 years, I don't think I am any better than a CM with 3.5 years in post or someone with 6 years and 3-4 tours. I just did my job, the PSB did theirs. I've said it before and will say it again: there has never been a board at any rank and of any trade that didn't raise eyebrows or p*ss someone off but it's the best system we have. I would take it one step further and publish every PSB complete with comments and scores - now that really would give folks something to submit SCs about!
 
Eff,

My cynicism with Drafters getting a better deal than the rest of us is up there with the rest of us outsiders. I was once interviewed for a plumb Embassy job along with a CM and 2 other candidates; the CM's Boss conducted the interviews and it doesn't take the immense brain power of an under-paid and under-valued Techie to work out who got the job! - if you've ever met me I can guarantee that I would have bored you with the tale. And so I was with with until you said:

explain how a CM of 3 1/2 years in one job gets his wobbly - and stays at HW of course - while others outwith the Manning environment who have a lot more experience and diverse jobs don't get near him on the board and when they get offered it's to some sh!t hole
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I've never known anyone pull strings to stay at HW and have often heard it referred to as a sh!t hole; now if it was and stays at Innsworth, I may have agreed with you! These days I'm a lot less cynical, and believe that if you work hard you'll get promoted eventually, just don't concern yourself with who may be getting picked up before you - it ain't good for your 'elf.
 
Hey fair enough. Remember I am not the only one who is of this thinking.
The ones who defend it all are usually the ones who have had it work in their favour, strange that.

HW is the new Innsworth so those within will want to stay as they did with Innsworth you don't need the brains of an archbishop to work that one out either.

Hey, although we all know that a tour or more as a CM is good for your bank balance and shoulders, it doesn't suit everyone so there should be complete parity across the board. C grades coming off No1 - jesus christ defend that one then!

- answers along the lines of, he is a good man (no probs with that), been in bogs and drains so not a Cm (but he was).....heard it all before. Again defended by those who have either been a CM or know the guy.

Anyway, my opinions and i'm sticking to 'em, maybe not good for my 'elf but who cares.

Transparency is the way forward - but as you say can you imagine it!!!!???!!

Rgds to all fellow shineys
 
down to no 18 on FS-WO board now guys, only ratified 3 months ago - wow!!!

Can someone advise when a board closes? is it month before the next board? can people still be used off old board for 3 months after that date if they have been released? any proper gen muchas gracias
 
effinhell said:
down to no 18 on FS-WO board now guys, only ratified 3 months ago - wow!!!

Can someone advise when a board closes? is it month before the next board? can people still be used off old board for 3 months after that date if they have been released? any proper gen muchas gracias
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You are an administrator aren't you? Elementary questions there.

1 month prior to new board sitting. Yes and Yes.
 
tommo9999 said:
You are an administrator aren't you? Elementary questions there.

1 month prior to new board sitting. Yes and Yes.
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oh i am sorry, as a mere runt i didn't know 100%.

You are a big fat scottish cnut aren't you?
 
KingGuin said:
Tommo stop being helpful:PDT_Xtremez_30:, refer everone to a JSP, JPAC or SPVA - you KNOW the drills!
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Tommo helpful, don't make me laugh!stfu

Condescending yes, helpful never.....once a drafter.....
 
KingGuin said:
Troll like and offensive. And if you are a "mere runt" why the interest in this board?
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You are right, totally out of order, bottom duly smacked oh great one.

I take it back, he is not fat just heavily built.

I am interested as my grandpa has asked me that's all, although he isn't and has never been a drafter/CM he may die before he gets his wobbly...

Lighten up.stfu
 
Well I think we've moved far enough off topic.

The heavily built, ex-drafting, scottish cnut of a moderator has closed the thread.
 
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