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Boarderlyne said:
RFC has a mountain of debt to climb. This is not just financial but publicly as well. So the money has been thrown away by the previous owner, so be it. But the SPL need RFC as much as RFC need the SPL. While the Gers will probably be dumped into Div 3 and have to work their arse off to get back into the SPL, it can only serve as an object lesson for the rest of the clubs in the Scottish Leagues.

Gem, you really need to sort your medication out. :PDT_Xtremez_30:
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I'll go and watch some Jockanese footie, better than mogadon:PDT_Xtremez_42:
 
i totally sympathise with Rangers fans , nowt of there doing just some cnut ruiend there club and they suffer for it. Rangers is the start I think there will be a lot of arse twitching in the premiership as HMRC has made its intensions. Money never last for ever andthe premiership is a huge example of buying success and it never lasts forver.
Scottish football can never get any worse so i really dont think it will get any worse, like Tommo says for years many clubs have been living within there means. Its only people saying now it will collapse , doom and gloom and all that crap as Rangers fans are hurting. Nobody will really care when the new season kicks off.

Sad situation but i reckon its the start of huge financial **** for football clubs in the UK
 
tommo9999 said:
Thank you the voice of football. Scottish football is sustainable provided clubs live within their means - the recent changes to punishments for financial offences mean we now have some of the most stringent penalties in Europe. As I said previously, but you may have forgotten because it's been at least 20 minutes, the previous hierarchy made serious mistakes and we are/will pay for them. No issue with that, but the SPL needs Rangers.
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Thats what I said, without them the SPL will collapse. Nobody will want to watch Celtic every week and there is no other team in the SPL big enough or good enough to draw the audience Sky need to make it worth their while pumping money in. Relegating Rangers will cause the collapse of the league.

I do feel sorry for the fans who are innocent of all this but they will get punished anyway. No decent footballer would be likely to stay if they are down in 3rd division. Ibrox will be a ghost town
 
BillyBunter said:
i totally sympathise with Rangers fans , nowt of there doing just some cnut ruiend there club and they suffer for it.
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Totally agree, fans of our clubs in Britain have very little say in how the club is run and they just have to put up with what the owners want. In my view there needs to be more stringent regulation by the governing bodies and checks into the status of potential and also current owners, i.e. the fit and porpper persons test. When David Moores sold Liverpool to Gillet and Hicks his advisors did a thorough check into Gillet's credentials but not Hicks, they simply took Gillet's word that he was a worthy individual. Turns out that a quick Google search would have revealed Hicks' dealings in Corinthians Fc in Brazil, and what happened to them after he bought them out.
The hgigher strata of football still lives in a vacuum compared with the rest of the world most of which is on its fionancial uppers at the moment. Its a very fragile bubble thats just waiting to burst.
 
gemarriott said:
I'll go and watch some Jockanese footie, better than mogadon:PDT_Xtremez_42:
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From the sounds of it you need both! However back to the main topic, needing Rangers and wanting Rangers are two different things. And I have little doubt that most club will vote with their wallets despite their hearts screaming that Rangers should start again from scratch.

PSB, that is very true as the fans' only choice is usually "Do I get ripped off for going to home games or away games?"
 
gemarriott said:
Jock football is unsustainable when only 2 teams can possibly win anything.
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I must disagree with this point. Look at the arguably 2 biggest leagues in Europe - The Premiership and La Liga. 2 poss 3 teams could win the Premiership, the rest are playing for the final champions league place. La Liga has been 2 teams for the last few years with no sign of this ending soon.

As for Rangers, in the interests of fair play we should be pushed to the bottom tier of Scottish Football, and there are a fair few SPL Chairman who would love to see it happen, but the simple fact is they cannot survive without the twice a season gate money that the Rangers away support bring; losing this combined with the removal of the Sky/ESPN money would push a lot of them the same way as we have went, or into part time football.

Either SPL or SFL or English League, there will be a few years of hardship but Rangers will be successful again
 
Shinyscot said:
I must disagree with this point. Look at the arguably 2 biggest leagues in Europe - The Premiership and La Liga. 2 poss 3 teams could win the Premiership, the rest are playing for the final champions league place. La Liga has been 2 teams for the last few years with no sign of this ending soon.

As for Rangers, in the interests of fair play we should be pushed to the bottom tier of Scottish Football, and there are a fair few SPL Chairman who would love to see it happen, but the simple fact is they cannot survive without the twice a season gate money that the Rangers away support bring; losing this combined with the removal of the Sky/ESPN money would push a lot of them the same way as we have went, or into part time football.

Either SPL or SFL or English League, there will be a few years of hardship but Rangers will be successful again
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The difference is that in the Premiership there are arguably 6 teams not 2 capable of winning if they get their act together and backed up solidly with perhaps another 10 teams all better than Rangers or Celtic and a championship of 24 clubs all far better than anything outside the big 2 in Scotland. The Spaniards and Italians both both have a great strength in clubs below their top 3 or 4 which is simply not the case in Scotland.

Another thing not recognised on here is that most clubs these days don't rely solely on gate money but on commercial income streams especially shirts and outside the top 2 in Scotland you would be hard pressed to find anything from Scottish clubs outside of Glasgow/Edinburgh but you can buy a Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool, Barcelona,Newcastle, Chelsea, Juventus..................etc anywhere including Scotland. Even just looking at Scottish shirts you'd have to hunt for a Rangers shirt in England but Celtic shirts are on sale every where. I still think that your big 2 need eachother in the same division but that means letting off Rangers at a time when the leagues are trying to play hard ball.
 
Downsizer said:
Errr, I'm no fan of Craig Whyte, but the tax issue goes way back to the time of DM. As much as I'd like it to be, the tax bill is not Whyte's fault.
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You're getting mixed up. The issues that drove us into administration are entirely from when Whyte took over. The so-called "Big Tax Case" is still with the first tier tribunal who have yet to deliver their judgement.
 
firestorm said:
Without Rangers, an uncompetitive league becomes a dead league.
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It seems Sky think so as well.............

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/sky-threat-pull-plug-spl-113142799.html

In sum, it seems that the four old firm derbies each season are the prime reason for the £110 million deal Sky have with the SPL and they are not prepared to wait a minimum of three seasons for Rangers to climb back to the SPL from the fourth tier. So, no Rangers no deal - the gun is loaded and the trigger cocked.
 
Despite the loud protestations of the locals who have a notion of big clubs with global clout etc without Sky's big bucks it becomes a minor league in small country like the Welsh Premier league or Div 1 in Lithuania. Massively important to those with an interest, indeed passion, devotion, life and death issues to some. However big picture across Europe are there TV worthy clubs with a remote chance of winning anything? sadly nope not happening. Like TNS or Crusaders early prelim rounds at best. Mr Murdoch has no soul and for his Sky empire it's a simple equation does this league make me money yes/no. The unending passion of the fans, the lifetime devotion to a club, count for nothing in the profit driven world of modern football. How much do the SPL want Sky's money and how much do they want to punish Rangers? Whatever they do will not please everyone.
 
firestorm said:
We've done quite well out of Rangers demise. Jelavic and now Naismith at knock down prices.
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Good player. Your scouts are a lot smarter than ours, get hold of solid reliable players at proper prices whereas ours can't even nail down a signing like Gylfi Siggurdsson without a dick dance which they evetually lose:PDT_Xtremez_42:
 
So.....

Is the newco still the queens 11??? Do you still follow the new club? It's a difficult one....
 
Wonder who the first team will be in the SPL to follow Rangers example and go into Administration, the loss of the income from 2 home games v Rangers will hit quite badly, Motherwell had already stated that the visits from Rangers accounted for 30% of their income from away supporters visiting Fir Park, that is a lot of cash to find from elsewhere, not to mention the pubs/burger vans etc that are going to see less custom.

Whenever Rangers get back into the SPL I can't really see many of our fans attending the away games either, there has been irreparable damage caused to the game by the desire to see Rangers hit with as many sanctions as they can make up
 
Downsizer said:
So.....

Is the newco still the queens 11??? Do you still follow the new club? It's a difficult one....
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I'm amazed you had to ask - you are either a Rangers fan or you're not. Through thick and thin. We will play in blue at Ibrox. No debate.
 
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