Pay rise?

[SgtScribbly]

lol at the coppers, admin, geffries and armourers answers



it's ICT Specialist

and yeah, that was a bit of a shock to all the TG1 in the audience too...

 

[Sospan]

lol at the coppers, admin, geffries and armourers answers



it's ICT Specialist

and yeah, that was a bit of a shock to all the TG1 in the audience too...

If that ever happens it will be the straw that breaks the camels back for TG1 &2.

I fear for the RAF if ever a decision like that was made.

 

[SgtScribbly]

that is how the scores are as at today.

when the JSJET do their thing they are undoubtedly shown the worst/hardest job in a trade to get the highest score possible

perhaps TG1s current score is lower than it really should be as when the job evaluation has been done in the past there was nothing to aim for. The TG was never going to score in the lower band so no need to bust a gut showing off the real jobs that would score highly. With another band above, the scope is there to try and justify it.

 

[muttywhitedog]

lol at the coppers, admin, geffries and armourers answers



it's ICT Specialist

and yeah, that was a bit of a shock to all the TG1 in the audience too...

Interesting.....

So the equivalent of a PC World repair man may become the highest paid trade in the RAF.

I think TGs 1,2 AND 17 would agree this would be a very bad move!

 

[squipper]

TG 1,2 & 17 will have to justify it then!!!

 

[sparks will fly]

Me thinks TG5 would be slightly annoyed to

 

[Bucc Boy]

TG 1,2 & 17 will have to justify it then!!!

A point to note is that TG17 obviously has a trade sponsor with an excellent track record, good pedigree and credentials to die for. History will remember them.


TG1 (TG2 is all but gone now) trade sponsors need to be recruited I would think.....Do we have any and if so do you think they would have the faintest idea how to fight our corner in that dog eat dog world out there.

I fear the worst.

 

[unruly1986]

Interesting.....

So the equivalent of a PC World repair man may become the highest paid trade in the RAF.

I think TGs 1,2 AND 17 would agree this would be a very bad move!

Maybe that is all that you see at station level. There is a lot more to TG4.

Still, a suprise if that gen about pay bands is true!

 

[rest have risen above me]

FFS of course it will be the ICT boys..they wrote the programs that work it out ...he he... The geeks will rule the world...just look at Mr Gates...
Although how we'll win a war when the best we can throw at em is a particularly nasty worded e-mail or a spiteful IM...lol..

Seriously it may be that TG1 dominance of technical stuff may be challenged but even the geeks will need someone to fix the UAV that they're flying from their desk and without parity they may struggle. Converting Cyberspace into real space is a totally if not more skilful task...

 

[The Masked Geek]

Let's not forget that it's the ICT Tech that will fix the ground radars, etc.

Just as skillful as swapping boxes on the Typhoon, that said, some of the fault diagnosis on the Typhoon is being done on IT systems so the TG1 types may end up being guided by an ICT Tech on which box to swap.

Gone are the days of scratching your head for a week or two when a hydraulic system at the rear of the aircraft takes out the DASS, an ICT Tech will be maintaining the systems that will guide you to the fault.

Then there's the two recent high profile investigations into the NLG and AOB which had 2 CIS Techs at their heart, designing new methods of data extraction and interpretation on the fly. We may even save the RAF a few quid in the TG1 guys that will be no longer needed as we help enable the streamlining of Typhoon fault rectification.

Having worked with Typhoon for the last 4 years, I can say that there is very little difference in the level of skill between TG1 and the old TG3.

There is a big difference between members of TG4 - irrespective of their trade of origin - but that's a different story...

 

[muttywhitedog]

Ah, but if your PC doesnt work, nobody will fall out of the sky from an aircraft so there's no way you can be paid more than an aircraft technician......DT_Xtremez_15:

 

[The Masked Geek]

Ah, but iIf our radars don't work, they'll be crashing into each other.........DT_Xtremez_30:

 

[Talk Wrench]

Just as skillful as swapping boxes on the Typhoon, that said, some of the fault diagnosis on the Typhoon is being done on IT systems so the TG1 types may end up being guided by an ICT Tech on which box to swap.

Gone are the days of scratching your head for a week or two when a hydraulic system at the rear of the aircraft takes out the DASS, an ICT Tech will be maintaining the systems that will guide you to the fault.

Then there's the two recent high profile investigations into the NLG and AOB which had 2 CIS Techs at their heart, designing new methods of data extraction and interpretation on the fly. We may even save the RAF a few quid in the TG1 guys that will be no longer needed as we help enable the streamlining of Typhoon fault rectification.

Having worked with Typhoon for the last 4 years, I can say that there is very little difference in the level of skill between TG1 and the old TG3.

There is a big difference between members of TG4 - irrespective of their trade of origin - but that's a different story...

Your sphincter is working overtime judging by the amount of sh1t that you have written.


TW

 

[The Masked Geek]

Your sphincter is working overtime judging by the amount of sh1t that you have written.


TW

Why don't you come and visit Conz and I'll show you. Until then, wind yer fcuking neck in. You don't know much do you.....


TMG.

 

[Talk Wrench]

The day that an ICT specialist is busy diagnosing faults on the line and telling techies how to fix an aircraft is the day that I will take you up on your invite.

TW

 

[The Masked Geek]

I'll take that as a no then......

We won't need to diagnose faults on the line, the aircraft tells you where the faults are all you need to do is sort out the actual fault from all the bollox that the Typhoon throws out. That's where the IT comes in.

Then all you need is a spanner monkey to swap the offending box.

It's not my fault they deskilled your trade by building an intelligent, if slightly confused, aircraft.

 

[metimmee]

Let's not forget that it's the ICT Tech that will fix the ground radars, etc.

Just as skillful as swapping boxes on the Typhoon, that said, some of the fault diagnosis on the Typhoon is being done on IT systems so the TG1 types may end up being guided by an ICT Tech on which box to swap.

Gone are the days of scratching your head for a week or two when a hydraulic system at the rear of the aircraft takes out the DASS, an ICT Tech will be maintaining the systems that will guide you to the fault.

Then there's the two recent high profile investigations into the NLG and AOB which had 2 CIS Techs at their heart, designing new methods of data extraction and interpretation on the fly. We may even save the RAF a few quid in the TG1 guys that will be no longer needed as we help enable the streamlining of Typhoon fault rectification.

Having worked with Typhoon for the last 4 years, I can say that there is very little difference in the level of skill between TG1 and the old TG3.

There is a big difference between members of TG4 - irrespective of their trade of origin - but that's a different story...

How many posts are we talking here within your trade that have this role?

 

[The Masked Geek]

Three at the cutting edge. In addition, there are 30 or so currently who could transfer over to the skills required and another 30 soon comming on line.

Once the new kit from BAE is delivered, data exploitation should take off.

It's just a shame that more people aren't on board.

BAE were meant to be delivering our current capability but a couple of CIS Techs and £100,000 got there first.

In reality, TG4 would provide the data. The crunching would be done by TG1 specialists but the data tends to speak for itself so there is little to actually crunch.....

 

[R_Squared]

Ah, but iIf our radars don't work, they'll be crashing into each other.........DT_Xtremez_30:

Strangely enough, our Watchman has been US all week and weve been SSR only.
Then that failed too. It hasnt started raining Tornado debris just yet.

I also think that it isnt just the radar that keeps the aircraft apart. It may have something to do with the pilots, or even the odd controller sticking their oar in. DT_Xtremez_14:

 

[Talk Wrench]

Then all you need is a spanner monkey to swap the offending box.

It's not my fault they deskilled your trade by building an intelligent, if slightly confused, aircraft.

After reading the part of your post that you typed in white ( which just goes to show how unbelievably nails that you are) I conclude that you are in fact determined to spout sh1te.

You don't know much..................... about aircraft engineering do you..........



TW