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The breakdown of Law and Order.

Rocket_Ronster

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"100 previous convictions? Well off you go mi laddo, jail isn't the right thing for you so off you trot and try not being naughty again!"




Type something a bit nasty on the old social media though and you're going down faster than you can say QWERTY

There's something amiss with the justice system and it needs fixing.
So, he gets 99 convictions under your precious Tories, but 1 under Labour and it's all Labour's fault.

Right-o.
 

Talk Wrench

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So, he gets 99 convictions under your precious Tories, but 1 under Labour and it's all Labour's fault.

Right-o.


No. You've missed the point completely and you've conveniently avoided answering anything to do with the breakdown of law and order.

I note that attacks on women using the rail services are up by 50% during the past 24 months. What's behind this increase and what solutions can you put forward to your union in the interest of passenger safety?
 

Cat Techie

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Interesting. Could you provide reliable statistics please to back up your thoughts?

As politely put to Mutty but you kindly answered on his behalf, what solutions do you propose? What solutions can you present?
https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/49978-how-britain-voted-in-the-2024-general-election. Proof of my statement. If you are a LAE, you should have the common to be able to research such info. The breakdown was reported after the election in various outlets.
 

busby1971

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The Tories have themselves to blame for losing so badly in the 2024 GE, they didn’t listen to their base, did the opposite of what they wanted and the parliamentary party denied the wider party the leader they wanted, installing one they didn’t (having kicked out one they really liked earlier).

Consensus has formed around Labour’s victory as not being a win for them, but a loss for others, their firm base, as evidenced in the YouGov data remains the political active, public sector workers, those dependent on the state in other ways and other large single issue groups (cultural/belief).

Labour are acting like they have the popular support of the majority, they don’t, they are spaffing billions on their support base (public sector/unionised workforce) and unnecessarily hitting others (VAT on school fees, changing the priorities for social housing and the Winter Fuel payment) where most people just can’t see the point of these.

Unfortunately for the sensible (not the grown ups) the Tories need to sort themselves out behind a new leader before they can start to capitalise, in the meantime the disenfranchised are likely to look to Reform or worse for leadership and direction, the issues that have created the recent disruption have not gone away and are only likely to be worsened under the current government.

One take from the You Gov data is that this looked at those that voted, not the 40% that didn’t, this is where the majority of the core conservative vote went, some red wall returned to Labour and others protested by doing the same or for others.
 

Talk Wrench

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https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/49978-how-britain-voted-in-the-2024-general-election. Proof of my statement. If you are a LAE, you should have the common to be able to research such info. The breakdown was reported after the election in various outlets.

Common sense is being able to answer a given question which is something you clearly seem to avoid at every opportunity.

What do you propose to improve the situation when it comes to improving Law and Order?

Simply repeating the words Tories / Gammon / Reform etc does not constitute an answer....so what are your solutions let's say for knife crime, or for reversing the marginalisation of various cross sections of society?
 

muttywhitedog

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Interesting. Could you provide reliable statistics please to back up your thoughts?

As politely put to Mutty but you kindly answered on his behalf, what solutions do you propose? What solutions can you present?
The kids that received A level results this week will have spent their entire education under the last Government, who have had ample opportunity to reform our education system to make it fit for the 2020s and beyond.

UK is almost entirely dependent on its service sector now for GDP, with very little manufacturing and even less of said manufacturing being done by skilled humans, so I can see why woodwork and metalwork classes are for the history books. If that is the way the world is moving, where robots make stuff, then the adults of tomorrow need to be taught how to build, maintain and develop AI.

The school day (IMHO) should also be an hour longer, and holidays should be shorter - say 10 weeks across the year instead of 13 (+ inset days). The knock-on effect to the economy of lower income parents having to take time off to look after their kids for 6 weeks in the summer, or shell out thousands for child care/summer activities is detrimental, plus in this day and age, a lot of those kids will only get a decent meal if they are at school, and 6 weeks without a decent meal for a child is akin to torture.

We (with our 2nd jobs and military pensions) are very privileged and dont often get to see what a lot of the UK have to endure on a daily basis. One of my team members is a former social worker - and some of the stuff he has dealt with was bloody horrific.
 

Cat Techie

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The kids that received A level results this week will have spent their entire education under the last Government, who have had ample opportunity to reform our education system to make it fit for the 2020s and beyond.

UK is almost entirely dependent on its service sector now for GDP, with very little manufacturing and even less of said manufacturing being done by skilled humans, so I can see why woodwork and metalwork classes are for the history books. If that is the way the world is moving, where robots make stuff, then the adults of tomorrow need to be taught how to build, maintain and develop AI.

The school day (IMHO) should also be an hour longer, and holidays should be shorter - say 10 weeks across the year instead of 13 (+ inset days). The knock-on effect to the economy of lower income parents having to take time off to look after their kids for 6 weeks in the summer, or shell out thousands for child care/summer activities is detrimental, plus in this day and age, a lot of those kids will only get a decent meal if they are at school, and 6 weeks without a decent meal for a child is akin to torture.

We (with our 2nd jobs and military pensions) are very privileged and dont often get to see what a lot of the UK have to endure on a daily basis. One of my team members is a former social worker - and some of the stuff he has dealt with was bloody horrific.
Still need hand skills as robots cannot make everything. Life skills that allow people to attempt anything.
 
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