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Blunty,

The Mafiosi don't bother me (if they didn't do the job, we'd have to!). What ****es me off is that they are always in denial; we know it exists and they know we know, but still they deny it. Why the big secret? Just admit it and be a bit more open with all their procedures; maybe that would go a long way to getting the trade a better reputation.

Good luck in Civvy Street, hope the grass really is greener.
 
God Help Us

God Help Us

Notsoblunt said:
As far as the secrecy surrounding our own trade is concerned, it is hardly in the best interests of the Innsworth Mafia to let those at the coal face have any input.

Notsoblunt - I think has a point, but we have all been guilty of proctecting our own corner at some stage in our lives. I think you will find that the FLWO is not part of the mafiaso, yes there is one, but it doesn't just exist in one location, it happens all over (RAF Scotland!). Anyway don't despair, things these days are never done in isolation and several experienced heads are better than one or two.

Got to sign off now, I think the FLWO is looking for his sense of humour, buried somewhere between the very dusty FitLinX card and the in tray.

To Infinity and beyond.
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Reading these posts makes me think the Trade Sponsor has a serious credibility crisis. I think it's time that he and his department came out in the open to put a stop to all this dangerous speculation that is going in within our trade.

And I don't mean by a faceless article in "Admin Matters" either. I remember the statement "98% satisfied with JPA training". There are lies, damned lies, and statistics!
 
My point exactly True Blue. If you want to put an end to the speculation and rumour-mongering, come out with a statement/letter stating exactly what this 'study' is looking at and what they hope the future of the trade will be. Won't happen though!
 
The Future (not) of TG17...!

The Future (not) of TG17...!

Humble Scribe said:
My point exactly True Blue. If you want to put an end to the speculation and rumour-mongering, come out with a statement/letter stating exactly what this 'study' is looking at and what they hope the future of the trade will be. Won't happen though!
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Oh how my wife laughed when I told her that I was not the only cynical old git left in TG17 (well for a few more weeks anyway).

For those who have not yet managed to do so, I strongly advise getting hold of the latest MCSG paper on future structures. This has been shown on SOPEC (PM) courses and various other "officer-related" training modules recently. So the information is out there, it is just not being publicised.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I hate to say it, but I have been banging on about this for quite a while now (what, exactly, I hear?). As I pause to count my small redundancy payoff, it is not a pretty read and does not augur well for the future of the Trade. If you can get sight of this, it will shock you into a large measure of reality. Not only is the future not bright, nor orange, it is also not "blue suits", but civvies doing our jobs - with a few token numbers left to deploy and get shot at.

I take no pleasure whatsoever in this, but forewarned is forearmed.

:PDT_Xtremez_28:
 
As I'm brand new to this forum, and also being stuck in the middle of nowhere with the carrot crunchers' and a chf shark that doesn't believe in diseeminating any info onto the irks, cam anyone shed any light on the trade review thats apparently happening? First I have heard of it!!

Will help in my decision as to go when I jump or hopefully pushed!!
 
The Sleepy Priest said:
As I'm brand new to this forum, and also being stuck in the middle of nowhere with the carrot crunchers' and a chf shark that doesn't believe in diseeminating any info onto the irks, cam anyone shed any light on the trade review thats apparently happening? First I have heard of it!!

Will help in my decision as to go when I jump or hopefully pushed!!
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Priest,

Tell your Chf Clk to get a job in the Trade Sponsors Office, - he'd do well!! (only joking DJ!)
 
Priest,

Sorry for not giving you a sensible answer! The truth is, I don't know what is really going on suffice as to say, the trade is inevitably being review following the introduction of JPA and the draw down of the RAF. You must have been aware of the rumours regarding moving TG17 into Med Centres & MT etc which have been going on for some time now but I don't believe that is what is being looked into at the moment.

TG17 is very vunerable to cuts & civilinisation; JPA was not going to pay for itself. I don't know if you've noticed, but there have been very few postings (assignments) in or out recently and that is, I guess, due to the fact that some posts will not be filled by blue suits anymore. Having spoken to quite a few collegues recently the word is that Works posts, TD or FDS posts, PA jobs and probably a few others will be phased out following the current 'review.' Drafters, or Career Managers, are not filling these posts once they are vacated as they are awaiting the outcome of the Trade review or MCSG paper (mention above).

Personally, I welcome change (for the better) and it has been coming for quite some time now but it has happened too late and without any acknowledgement that it was happening at all. I don't think we are alone in that though as I am unsure what notification the Clk Caterers or the Painters had on the end of their trades.

That's not to say it's the end of TG17 but probably the end as we know it! The trade will be streamlined with uniformed personnel only in core jobs or DAG's; this is a personal view and based on conversations with other clerks equally in the dark as I am.

Hope that sheds some light for you Priest as I've said these are my personal views based on 25 years experience and keeping my ears to the ground. Maybe you'll get you answers in Mar/Apr along with the rest of us!
 
I had heard the same rumours about posts which are likely to go. Now if the rumours are true then, I would like to offer this suggestion. With everything being chopped, do we really need a Trade Sponsor??????
 
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Kernow said:
I had heard the same rumours about posts which are likely to go. Now if the rumours are true then, I would like to offer this suggestion. With everything being chopped, do we really need a Trade Sponsor??????
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Probably not. The Trade Sponsors will probably be cut too with one for the Techie Trades and one for the Support Trades.
 
Kernow said:
I had heard the same rumours about posts which are likely to go. Now if the rumours are true then, I would like to offer this suggestion. With everything being chopped, do we really need a Trade Sponsor??????
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Wow. For the first time in my life I find myself agreeing with Kernow.

Now I'm reduced to asking should anyone who ends a question with 6 punctuation marks be taken seriously?
 
Humble Scribe said:
Probably not. The Trade Sponsors will probably be cut too with one for the Techie Trades and one for the Support Trades.
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What do you think their titles will be; I think SERCo Engineering Manager and SERCo Support Manager are simple but catchy.
 
Kernow said:
What do you think their titles will be; I think SERCo Engineering Manager and SERCo Support Manager are simple but catchy.
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Close, but no cigar. I think it will be EDS Engineering Manager and EDS Support Manager. Additionally, promotion boards will be run by Camelot.
 
Where did that rumour come from. It ain't true just like the real lottery I don't stand a chance.
 
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