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I wonder how many replies this thread is going to see when the new TV advert to join the RAF starts tomorrow (20th Jan)?
 
I know, as people have already said, we promote from within, so you need a steady trickle of people coming at the bottom, otherwise you end up with big periods of nobody getting promted followed by a period of everybody getting promoted. Which is not good for the service as a whole as you end up with right people missing out, and people that are not up to the mark getting promoted because they are riding the wave. The way we are currently doing it is one of the best for the Service, as it enables them to keep the promotion wheels churning while shedding.
 
Anyone know the regs on being made redundant whilst temp downgraded?
It won't become permanent, it's a sporting injury.
I have volunteered but unsure of my chances.
Cheers!
 
Ok, time to nail a couple of myths/rumours wrt medical issues. From the DIN:

Individuals who hold a permanent Joint Medical Employment Standard (JMES) of A4 (or A5) L5 M5 (or M6) E5 are exempt from the redundancy scheme. All other JMES’ will be considered.

Deployability. A value of ‘0’, ‘2’ or ‘5’ is awarded depending on an individual’s deployability based on their permanent Joint Medical Employment Standard (JMES) for Medically Non-Deployable (MND) (0), Medically Limited-Deployable (MLD) (2) or Medically Fully-Deployable (MFD) (5).
 
muttywhitedog said:
Ok, time to nail a couple of myths/rumours wrt medical issues. From the DIN:Individuals who hold a permanent Joint Medical Employment Standard (JMES) of A4 (or A5) L5 M5 (or M6) E5 are exempt from the redundancy scheme. All other JMES’ will be considered.Deployability. A value of ‘0’, ‘2’ or ‘5’ is awarded depending on an individual’s deployability based on their permanent Joint Medical Employment Standard (JMES) for Medically Non-Deployable (MND) (0), Medically Limited-Deployable (MLD) (2) or Medically Fully-Deployable (MFD) (5).
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I just can't understand why people cannot be bothered to access and read the DIN for themselves. It's easily accessible and it's even free to read as well; there's no catch or punishment in reading it first.
 
Lcfcfox1 said:
What a dullard, he should be made redundant purely for being a complete idiot, I hope his line management remind him to breathe occaisionally.
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I think anyone who comes on here and asks a question that clearly shows that they haven't read the DIN should be wummed to the max. Questions like his should be dealt with a: 'Yes you can; infact all those on course will be made redundant first'.
 
Individuals who hold a permanent Joint Medical Employment Standard (JMES) of A4 (or A5) L5 M5 (or M6) E5 are exempt from the redundancy

What is that MES?
 
Downsizer said:
Am I missing something? Get a perm downgrade, avoid redundancy?
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I am perm downgraded but thats not my JMES.

Ive got a review date on mine following latest operation to see if can be fully upgraded once completed rehab, dont know how this affects the redundacy board though
 
Downsizer said:
Am I missing something? Get a perm downgrade, avoid redundancy?
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Erm.....I'm not sure how easy it is to get a perm downgrade. It does appear though that we're potentially getting rid of those who can and keeping those who can't; but not knowing enough about the nuances of the med cat and med pensionworld, I can't imagine it would be more beneficial to avoid redundancy by being permanently downgraded.......can it?
 
Drill Bit said:
Erm.....I'm not sure how easy it is to get a perm downgrade. It does appear though that we're potentially getting rid of those who can and keeping those who can't; but not knowing enough about the nuances of the med cat and med pensionworld, I can't imagine it would be more beneficial to avoid redundancy by being permanently downgraded.......can it?
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I suppose if you got a med discharge - attributed to service and therefore a tax free pension it would in the long run be more beneficial financially?

There are many who have a perm downgrading who are still eligible - the one they stated in the DIN is 'almost dead' :PDT_Xtremez_14:
 
Lcfcfox1 said:
muttywhitedog said:
Ok, time to nail a couple of myths/rumours wrt medical issues. From the DIN:

Individuals who hold a permanent Joint Medical Employment Standard (JMES) of A4 (or A5) L5 M5 (or M6) E5 are exempt from the redundancy scheme. All other JMES’ will be considered.

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Basically the only reason that these are not eligible for redundancy is because they are all going to be the subject of a Medical dischsrge anyway:PDT_Xtremez_28:
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Really ????? Seeing as I'm both permenantly AND temporary downgraded following recent extensive surgery, and
been the subject to an Employment Review Board I can tell you that its cheaper to let me see out my
current service engagement than give me a medical pension with all the trimmings

And before I get accused of 'det dodging', 'malingering', 'glass backed' or even 'lazy' I was injured 3 years ago,
whilst out on Operations - I've had 3 operations including major tendon reconstruction with more operations to come.
Whilst this is a rumour website, I'd stick to the facts of the DIN - it doesn't state anywhere if you have a certain
MedCat the you wont get redundancy as you'll get a Med discharge. As it is my trade only want 10 WO so I'm not
eligible
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Medical
A person cannot be considered for redundancy
compensation if he leaves the service on Invaliding terms. JSP 764 Part Ch 2
0203 (e) Ch 3 0303 d) refers.


As its the weekend and I am not back in work for a while, does anyone know what that means?
If your down graded and non deployable does that mean wont get redundacy compensation/payout?
 
liverpool1 said:
Medical
A person cannot be considered for redundancy
compensation if he leaves the service on Invaliding terms. JSP 764 Part Ch 2
0203 (e) Ch 3 0303 d) refers.


As its the weekend and I am not back in work for a while, does anyone know what that means?
If your down graded and non deployable does that mean wont get redundacy compensation/payout?
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If your JMES is the one in the DIN or lower(?) then you ain't able to apply. If you have a JMES above this then you can apply. When the boards sit they then look at MND and MLD and weight appropriately.
 
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