Big sam

[fergo]

Must admit I feel sorry for big Sam and feel he just wasn't given a chance. Sacked after not even a year in charge is a joke. As a long suffering Villa fan, I feel we are finally getting it right down at Villa Park. Martin O'Neil is slowly rebuilding the squad and it does take time! After his first year in charge we finished just off the relegation spots, we knew he was restructuring as did the board and so he's still there now, and doing a great job! The buffoons on the Toon board seem to want instant success, sorry, but that's just not going to happen!

I think you are right. If teams like Villa, Everton, Newcastle, all relativly big clubs with proud histories, want to be succesfful they need to give managers a chance. It takes money and time to get a squad together. And unless you buy success by going out one summer and buying a shed load of players it is going to take you 3-4 years to get the guys in that you want and to build your team.

 

[The Loan Ranger]

The BBC has it spot on in an online article:

Newcastle United is the club that has made calamity its middle name - the long-running joke that still raises belly-laughs around the football world.

But this is Newcastle and only the rules of the madhouse apply.

In terms of football success, Newcastle are strictly small-time and there is no sign of that changing any time soon.

Until then, Newcastle will remain the Premiership's finest old music hall act, giving laughs and entertainment a-plenty to everyone but their own suffering supporters.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A30900980?s_fromedit=1&s_typedarticle=edit&s_type=15&s_sport=football

The Jawdees are a misguided bunch of neanderthals who still believe they are one of the top 3 temas in the country, almost 40years since they won a trophy to talk about (the Fairs Cup remember it??), they won the FA Cup in the 50's and that was it. Whoever decides to take this poison chalice of a job should be given our pity as he certainly won't get the support of the Toon Barmy unless of course his surname is Shearer.....

FTM & Keep The Faith..

 

[Pan Warrior]

Odds

Odds

Odds for NUFC job on Sky

'arry 8/13
Sparky Hughes 5/1
Jol 6/1
Shera (princess of power) 11/1!?!
Chuckle Brothers 16/1

I feel sorry for poor old Joey Barton getting stuck with a club like that. The boy's troubled enough.DT_Xtremez_42:

 

[shirley286]

I think newcastle fans will keep ousting managers untill they get shearer, who will then also be sacked, i hope they get relegated......DT_Xtremez_30:

 

[firestorm]

Good quote from 5live.
"You can pull out all of Shearers teeth, replace them with seats but it won't make him a coach!"

 

[Ghandi's Flip-Flop]

While I agree that Sam wasn't given sufficient time, don't go bringing up the previous regimes traits for chopping and changing managers. The current board have sacked one manager, who incidently was not appointed by them. Yes you are right a Manager needs to be given time to have success, but please don't use the Ferguson example as football was a different business back then, will his successor get 4 years if he doesn't continue winning trophies? Also Wenger keeps being cited but is Arsene successfull because he has been given time, or has he been given time by virtue of being successfull?

It remains to be seen whether Ashley will be strong enough to properly back the guy he instates next. But to be going mental accusing the board of being knee jerk reactionists, when big sam has not had results or performances and by all accounts had lost the dressing room too. By all means if The current board continue the pattern set bt Shepherd and Co then critisise and rightly so, but until then put the knives back away.

 

[Albert Park]

Vacancy

Vacancy

TEMPORARY MANAGER sought for ambitious north east based company currently lacking vision. Candidates must present a long-term strategy for success but accept that this will be a short-term position. Candidates should be able to accept unnecessary criticism on every decision they make. Be prepared to travel throughout the UK - European travel is not expected anytime soon. Accept living in the shadow of a former employee of the business. Immediate start required. Please send CV and salary expectations to jobs@nufc.co.uk.

Shamelessly lifted from FMTTM

 

[Ghandi's Flip-Flop]

European travel is not expected anytime soon.

OH aye and you'll be off winning the champions league next year as well i suppose. Hate to say it but I suspect there'll be lots of watching the Bill on both Tyneside and Teesidenext season.

 

[twoboats]

Let's cut to the chase here people

name one trophy that big sam has won - he has never won anything so why give him time on the premise that he might win something - and this was the man in the frame for the england job for God's sake - says it all really me thinks ... enough said - get someone with a proven track record if you want to win something - if not keep appointing losers DT_Xtremez_28:

 

[Albert Park]

Newcastle United owner Mike Ashley is pondering over who will take over the hotseat at Sid James' when he spots an old lady struggling with her shopping trolley.

He goes over to her and enquires "Can you manage, dear"?

"Aye, pet" says the old woman.

"Congratulations you've got the job".

 

[Ghandi's Flip-Flop]

For all thos fans sticking the boot in, found this post elsewhere and I have to say it puts across plenty of good points.

Why do supporters of other club always seem to enjoy jumping on the band wagon regarding having a go at Newcastle fans... as if they & their club are so different, especially when talking about managers needing time to succeed e.g.:

Arsenal - Wenger finished high in his 1st season(i.e. not languising in mid-table mediocrity like Newcastle currently are, followed by the double the year after.
Liverpool - Benitez didn't need much time to win the Champions league?
Derby - get rid of the guy who gave them success last season;
Chelsea - Mourinho didn't need time? & they got rid of him despite his success;
Tottenham - almost as many managers as Newcastle with little success;
Bolton - didnt give their Allardyce replacement much time;
Wigan - didn't give their Jewell replacement much time;
Man Utd - Although no instant success, Ferguson took over in a completely different footballing world. Be interesting to see how long his replacement gets.. as long as Ferguson? Doubt it.

Here's a couple of others from the footballing world:

England - McClaren? Wouldn't surprise me if half the people complaining about Newcastle getting rid of Allardyce were actually calling for McClaren's head (the fans of the two aren't much different, high expectations base on little success... think that's called two-faced);
Real Madrid - sacked a manager despite winning the league?

Finally a point to consider for those people who say that Newcastle aren't a big club... they are actually 5th in the overall Premier League table, despite being in the league a season less than the likes of Villa, Spurs & Everton. you don't get to 5th overall based on 2 seasons as runners up... that table is completed based on 15 years!

Just my two cents.

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after reading all you other total muppets who have got nothing better to do than have a pop at us geordies, and some with some real hate, for why i don't know.
All i want to say is to all those experts on here who said give him time rubbish!!!! you haven`t been watching the utter garbage we have (stoke on sunday a regular site at st james this season)and read the post above!!!!

 

[Seymour Tw@tt]

For all thos fans sticking the boot in, found this post elsewhere and I have to say it puts across plenty of good points.

Why do supporters of other club always seem to enjoy jumping on the band wagon regarding having a go at Newcastle fans... as if they & their club are so different, especially when talking about managers needing time to succeed e.g.:

Arsenal - Wenger finished high in his 1st season(i.e. not languising in mid-table mediocrity like Newcastle currently are, followed by the double the year after.
Liverpool - Benitez didn't need much time to win the Champions league?
Derby - get rid of the guy who gave them success last season;
Chelsea - Mourinho didn't need time? & they got rid of him despite his success;
Tottenham - almost as many managers as Newcastle with little success;
Bolton - didnt give their Allardyce replacement much time;
Wigan - didn't give their Jewell replacement much time;
Man Utd - Although no instant success, Ferguson took over in a completely different footballing world. Be interesting to see how long his replacement gets.. as long as Ferguson? Doubt it.

Here's a couple of others from the footballing world:

England - McClaren? Wouldn't surprise me if half the people complaining about Newcastle getting rid of Allardyce were actually calling for McClaren's head (the fans of the two aren't much different, high expectations base on little success... think that's called two-faced);
Real Madrid - sacked a manager despite winning the league?

Finally a point to consider for those people who say that Newcastle aren't a big club... they are actually 5th in the overall Premier League table, despite being in the league a season less than the likes of Villa, Spurs & Everton. you don't get to 5th overall based on 2 seasons as runners up... that table is completed based on 15 years!

Just my two cents.

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after reading all you other total muppets who have got nothing better to do than have a pop at us geordies, and some with some real hate, for why i don't know.
All i want to say is to all those experts on here who said give him time rubbish!!!! you haven`t been watching the utter garbage we have (stoke on sunday a regular site at st james this season)and read the post above!!!!

Absolutely all true. I personally think SA was not given enough time but for all the bleating on here, there are other teams just as guilty of dropping managers too early - Chelski and Spurs to name but two.

Well, it's the last remaining link with the old regime gone. If the next man fails to deliver it'll be Mort and Ashley's fault. No one else to blame then,...

And for all you unwashed f*ckwits from the Wear and Tees - you have nothing to crow about. Both of you lot are well on the way to playing in the Coca Cola Championship next season...

DT_Xtremez_27:

 

[3Chordwonder]

I believe that Sam's axeing has probably tipped everyone's opinion of Toon fans over the edge. They have finally proved themselves to be the laughing stock of the league.

I think Harry would be a complete mug to take the job if offered - career suicide. Why would he leave Pompey where he is adored and has a far better squad and team morale than Newcastle?

It would only take a poor run early on to, once again, trigger the morons calling for his head. Look at martin O'Neil when he took over at Villa - did absolutely nothing spectacular in the first season, but is slowly and surely building a team to challenge for things in a season or two. That is the only way forward in the Premier league (unless you have a few billion to throw at players)

Personally, I'd love to have seen Shearer get the job and lose 10 games on the bounce....then see what happened.

 

[Albert Park]

.... And for all you unwashed f*ckwits from the Wear and Tees - you have nothing to crow about. Both of you lot are well on the way to playing in the Coca Cola Championship next season...

Now, now, Seymour. I'd thought you were prescribed tablets to calm down your abusiveness toward your more elegant and intellectual neighbours.

We may well be championship-bound, only time will tell. By the way, the Jawdees are not too far above us (6pts).

 

[AllWoman]

Now, now, Seymour. I'd thought you were prescribed tablets to calm down your abusiveness toward your more elegant and intellectual neighbours.

We may well be championship-bound, only time will tell. By the way, the Jawdees are not too far above us (6pts).

And with games against Man Utd and Arsenal coming up in the next few weeks those 6 pts may well not amount to much!!!

 

[penfold93]

The more crap going on at the 'Toon' the better it is for the mighty Potters who go there for the FA Cup replay. Thought they would at least wait to see if he got them through to the next round. So as a Potters fan then was hoping he would be on the way pretty soon.DT_Xtremez_30:

 

[The Loan Ranger]

Now, now, Seymour. I'd thought you were prescribed tablets to calm down your abusiveness toward your more elegant and intellectual neighbours.

We may well be championship-bound, only time will tell. By the way, the Jawdees are not too far above us (6pts).

Have to agree with AP on this one and from your other North East neighbours we too are looking on, laughing at the delusional attitude of everybody’s favourite (if you believe what they say about themselves) football fans…



Face facts you aren’t a BIG club, you never really were a BIG club so accept what you’ve got, fat blokes in barcodes and women who are dogs (I refer you to what your own chairman called those lovely young ladies who frequent the quayside and the toon), the only thing BIG in Newcastle is the fat bloke who keeps being shown on TV with his top off, and I don’t mean Mike Ashley…


Stands back and waits for more drivel from the Tyne..

 

[Ghandi's Flip-Flop]

The more crap going on at the 'Toon' the better it is for the mighty Potters who go there for the FA Cup replay. Thought they would at least wait to see if he got them through to the next round. So as a Potters fan then was hoping he would be on the way pretty soon.DT_Xtremez_30:

I wouldn't get too excited, even the caretaker will play people in their correct positions and getting a 0-0 draw at home is a totally different prospect to beating us at St James'. (Now prays that the Brum result last year was a 1 off)

 

[Pan Warrior]

Found this

Found this

Wake up and smell the coffee Newcastle, who do they think they are. They can't win a raffle let alone a match, their team is inept and packed full of overpaid so called players. Sam didn't stand a chance and in my opinion "Sam, you are well out of it, they don't deserve you" All we hear is Newcastle are a sleeping giant and a big club and they seem to think they have a divine right to win the premiership, they can't win a cup competition, face up to it you are not good enough, you will only succeed when you realise this, pick a manager and stick with him or her, now there's a thought!!

 

[Ghandi's Flip-Flop]

Wake up and smell the coffee Newcastle, who do they think they are. They can't win a raffle let alone a match, their team is inept and packed full of overpaid so called players. Sam didn't stand a chance and in my opinion "Sam, you are well out of it, they don't deserve you" All we hear is Newcastle are a sleeping giant and a big club and they seem to think they have a divine right to win the premiership, they can't win a cup competition, face up to it you are not good enough, you will only succeed when you realise this, pick a manager and stick with him or her, now there's a thought!!

Right can I explain to you that "Fans" dont appoint or sack managers. And which Newcastle fans expect to win anything, yes we are passionate and hopefull at the start of each season, but who isn't? None I speak too, all the hypocrites on here who were clamouring for Steve McLarens head after Englands players were underperforming are suddenly on the moral high ground when Newcastle decide to do the same.

We are currently only mid table due to a few fluked results and the fact we haven't played many of the bigger clubs yet. If we had stuck with Big Sam we'd have been sucked down into a relegation dogfight. Yes many of his players were underperforming. But the vast majority of those who were where his signings. Is that the Newcastle fan's fault as well?

Big Sam is the eighth Premiership manager to be sacked this season, many of whom had been given even less time than Big Sam. I didn't see threads on here slating their decisions. I point out the fact again that the current board didn't appoin t Allardyce, they have chosen to end his tenure early, but he is the first manager they have sacked. If they act in a similar manner to the next guy (who looks like being Harry Redknapp) then by all means get your knives out. Until then stop spouting off about situations you know nothing about.

Any of you coming on here you're welcome to have Big Sam as manager, watch his brand of Anti-Football for six months and then see how happy and how great a manager he is first hand. I could guarantee you'd fully understand why while most fans thought the sacking came early, they aren't shedding a tear for him either. Remember he'd lost the vast majority of the Bolton Fans during his last six months there too.