the Problem will be on the border at the cross over. …………. and of course rhd cars won’t go away just because they decide to swop sides.
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Why oh why oh why would Scots want to give up the benefits of The Act of Union?:
1. Free prescriptions.
2. Subsidised Open Uni courses (a lot less than England for OU).
3. Higher rate of GDP per head in the UK.
PAID FOR BY LANNNNDAAAANNN!!!
And NOT PERFECT but it works. Would rather be in the Act of Union than be in the EU...
1. Free prescriptions.
2. Subsidised Open Uni courses (a lot less than England for OU).
3. Higher rate of GDP per head in the UK.
PAID FOR BY LANNNNDAAAANNN!!!
And NOT PERFECT but it works. Would rather be in the Act of Union than be in the EU...
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Can we have a referendum that allows England, Scotland, Wales and NI to divorce themselves from the London Metropolitan bubble of politics that has constantly let everyone down in recent decades?
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I've never made it a secret that I despised, I mean really despised the Kinloss area. I came across countless accounts of anti-English w@nkers including my personal favourite of ‘you English RAF b@stards come up here, taking our jobs’ so have little time or love for those in that area. If they want ‘out’ then fine by me...hope they enjoy being completely responsible for their own services.
it would be a very EU thing to do to take Scotland back in, just to make things difficult for those that dared to go in a different direction, taking their money with them.
it would be a very EU thing to do to take Scotland back in, just to make things difficult for those that dared to go in a different direction, taking their money with them.
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Unfortunately these would be the same morons that would then complain about the effect on the economy if the bases were to close!!!!
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That wouldn't happen; Spain would vote against for fear of encouraging Catalan/Basque separatists, Italy wouldn't want to encourage those in their economically rich north to separate from the less well off south, Germany has its own 'splitters' as well. Those three alone would be enough to keep a newly independent Scotland from an easy ride entry into the EU. The EU has, I think, started to realise that the disparity between the rich, democratic, nations who were the early members and the poorer, more extremist, nations admitted later is causing stress internally and, therefore, will be increasingly reluctant to take in more 'net beneficiary' nations without more 'net contributor' nations (as was the UK) to cover the costs.
As an English person who has lived in Scotland for 30 years, I find myself torn on the question. It appears to me that there is no economic case for independence. In fact the opposite is true. One only has to see the chaos caused by Brexit for evidence of that. In reality the UK was only in a federal Europe for 20 or so years, as all of the major legal ties were created by the 1992 Maastricht treaty. 20 years of integration that is proving difficult to extricate from. The union has been around for hundreds of years. Therefore the independence argument is an emotional one. You either want independence or you don’t. What I do find irritating is the tactics deployed by the SNP. They never provide details as to how an independent Scotland will function. Many of the topics have already been mentioned. However I cannot vote for independence when I don’t know what currency we will be using. How much will it cost and how long will it take to get the great offices of state up and running. Will there be a referendum on joining the EU. In my view joining the EU is dependent on the terms offered for joining. I do not believe the terms will be as generous as those the UK left. The single biggest irritant from the SNP however, is labelling legitimate questions as “Project Fear” still without providing answers. To be clear on the debate my vote is undecided, I could vote for independence if the nationalists would provide honest answers. If the honest answer is, we don’t know and it may well initially prove to be costly, that in my view is better than the aggressive bluster we are currently forced to endure. My opinion for what it is worth is that there will be a second independence referendum and the vote will be to remain again.
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Give Scotland the independence vote on condition that ...
- After 5 years, another referendum is held to see if the people want to rejoin the UK.
- If the second referendum votes for staying independent, the result stands for a minimum of 50 years.
- If they do rejoin the UK, the new terms are as an equal, no propping up from Westminster.
- The Armed Forces are divvied up by % of the population.
- The National Debt is divvied up by % of the population.
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Point 5 there would mean that the English would shoulder more of the accrued national debt than they have racked up. The Barnett Formula for 2019 meant that whilst the UK average spending was £9584 per head, Scotlands was £11242 per head and England's £9296 per head. There has been an approx 20% difference every year between England & Scotland funding, and once the bill is spilt, this 20% uplift should be passed back to the creators of the debt.
UK population = 66 million
Scottish population = 5.5 million. (8.33%)
Debt = 2.5 Trillion.
Straight % means the Scots would take on £208 Bn of debt, but reverse Barnett means they take on £250Bn
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The BBC seem to really pushing the lack of a democratic route to independence, but there is a route it's a once in a generation referendum, if the public mood wants it.
The BBC don't seem to balance this out by harping on about the democratic route to continued union, the last referendum needs to be respected, whilst not in Scotland myself the SNP don't seem to be banging the drum as their main policy so it would be hard for them to fully argue that their vote and any potential majority was a defacto vote for independence.
If I was voting I'd look at how the current Scottish government aren't actually doing that good a job with the devolved powers they have and would like to see this sorted before I would want to see further separation.
In Scotland you've got project fear and project threat, both sides should just lay out clean and clear facts and let the population decide, once in a generation of course, not every couple of years, unfortunately politicians being politicians aren't going to let this happen.
The BBC don't seem to balance this out by harping on about the democratic route to continued union, the last referendum needs to be respected, whilst not in Scotland myself the SNP don't seem to be banging the drum as their main policy so it would be hard for them to fully argue that their vote and any potential majority was a defacto vote for independence.
If I was voting I'd look at how the current Scottish government aren't actually doing that good a job with the devolved powers they have and would like to see this sorted before I would want to see further separation.
In Scotland you've got project fear and project threat, both sides should just lay out clean and clear facts and let the population decide, once in a generation of course, not every couple of years, unfortunately politicians being politicians aren't going to let this happen.
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They dont govern for the benefit of England or the UK and the people of Scotland seem to be very happy with their governing party, which is why they repeatedly keep voting them back in such huge numbers.
If they can con the Tories into giving them an extra 20% of funding per head, then they have less need to use their tax raising powers. I'd call that good government on the SNP's part and sh!t Government on the UK's part.
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Scotland ALREADY has a large degree of autonomy!! We have our own law system. If Scotland wishes to go independent with Indy Ref 2 then so be it BUT I also believe that like last time, there is a silent majority who enjoys being and sees the benefits of the Union!!!
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That would not be a problem if that was part of the leave contract, but it wasn't so ......
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I just fear that this will be your standard statement for the next few years.....
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And I don't think I've said anything that stops them...It must be tough being a hardliner socialist these days...wherever you look your dreams and plans are in tatters. The 6th May results will be interesting though.
Still not hearing any answers to the big questions. Currency, EU, Institutions, assets, debt. As I said in my lengthy diatribe, project fear is no answer. All we get is project pie in the sky.
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All those things will be scrutinised when Indyref 2 takes place, and if the SNP come out with the same deflecting tactics that they are now, the vote will go the same way as it did last time.
Next week the Scottish electorate are voting on which party they'd like to spend their 20% uplift courtesy of Westminster.
Next week the Scottish electorate are voting on which party they'd like to spend their 20% uplift courtesy of Westminster.
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It's a bit like the US Senate... Rep Senate/Dem President and vice-versa: SNP for devolved parliament and 1st Minister BUT will still be voted down to have a UK Premier running the UK and NOT an independent Scotland!!!
