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elovabloke
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Will contact SAR and others tomorrow. Well SAR at midnight tonight as that always seems to be the time the low fly me on the way back to the hanger :0
True Blue Jack
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The petition has just moved into the top 5.
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Tigs2
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Hi Guy's
My first post here (Ex plumber and then SH force). I should have been on years ago but wasted my life on PPRuNe and ARRSE (not a bad thing because they all love you!). Just to say THANK YOU to all of you. The petition is over 30 000 now...YES 30 0000! That is a major political statement. I have been down to Ashtead a couple of times handing out leaflets, and will be back there tonight. The local population are 99% behind what we are doing, keep it up we are on a winner.
My first post here (Ex plumber and then SH force). I should have been on years ago but wasted my life on PPRuNe and ARRSE (not a bad thing because they all love you!). Just to say THANK YOU to all of you. The petition is over 30 000 now...YES 30 0000! That is a major political statement. I have been down to Ashtead a couple of times handing out leaflets, and will be back there tonight. The local population are 99% behind what we are doing, keep it up we are on a winner.
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Bluntend
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Oops.
Oops.
I recently realised something rather amusing. Over the weekend, I emailed my family back in the UK a link to the e-petition and have since received emails back from my family confirming that they have all signed the petition. I also got an email from my sister suggesting I check the link I provided. As it turns out, I'd accidentally given them the wrong link. The link I gave them was this one: http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Ashtead/ which states:
I have since forwarded on the correct link to the petition to allow the development of a Families Support Centre at Grays Lane so rest assured a few more names will be added soon.
Honestly it was a genuine mistake...
Oops.
I recently realised something rather amusing. Over the weekend, I emailed my family back in the UK a link to the e-petition and have since received emails back from my family confirming that they have all signed the petition. I also got an email from my sister suggesting I check the link I provided. As it turns out, I'd accidentally given them the wrong link. The link I gave them was this one: http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Ashtead/ which states:
Oops!
I have since forwarded on the correct link to the petition to allow the development of a Families Support Centre at Grays Lane so rest assured a few more names will be added soon.
Honestly it was a genuine mistake...
propersplitbrainme
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Tigs, you are doing an outstanding job mate, well done to the entire team.
It is astonishing to note that the Headley petition has been running for, what, 12 days now and has amassed 30,000 signatures whereas other petitions on national issues like speed cameras ran for weeks or months and failed to get that number during the whole period they ran.
Wednesday is going to be very interesting, and I'm sure the sad and nasty folk of the ARA (or whoever the main complainants are) never in their worst nightmares dreamt just how readily their selfish attitudes would be exposed to the nation.
DT_Xtremez_14: I'm damned certain that there are a good few who wished they'd never written their letter of objection in the first place.
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POB
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Off Topic
What is also of note, and appalling is that 3 of the top 7 online petitions are to do with the Military, and the dreadful way they are treated by the Government. They are also mainly in reference to Medical matters...
I've just been looking through the Testimonials on the http://www.36grayslane.co.uk/testimony.html?x=69&y=10 page... It's not often I get a lump in my throat, but I feel for this lady, her kids , her husband... and anyone else in her situation...
April the 10th 2006 became the day my family’s life changed forever.
April the 10th 2006 became the day my family’s life changed forever.
That fateful night I received a phone call telling me that my husband had been involved in an anti-tank mine explosion and that I should prepare for the worst. A short while later my husband got the chance to phone me and tell me he was OK and alive but that he couldn’t move from the neck down, and had a small hole to the side of his head.
I spent a horrible night crying and feeling very alone, and feeling like my whole world had come to an end. My 6 year-old daughter awoke to find a mother beside herself and to be told that "Daddy has had an accident and at the moment can’t move his arms and legs but that we are going to work our hardest to fix him". Her response of "Is Daddy going to die?" will haunt my to the last day of my life.
My husband was flown home the following day to Selly Oak Hospital, where I had been taken to meet him. He was checked over and we were told that he had broken his neck in 5 places and to be honest he was lucky to still be here - had he not been a paratrooper and so fit he would have died as his chest-wall muscles were paralysed. He would be on a life support machine till that was fixed.
After a hard and testing week at Selly Oak, he was taken to Oswestry Spinal Hospital, where he stayed for 6 months. We were told he would need 6 weeks of total bed rest (strapped down), then he would have to work at sitting up and that we wouldn’t know if he was ever to walk again.
This 6 weeks turned into 11, which for a fit man was very hard and emotional for him to cope with and for me to watch. All this time I was driving from Cambridge to Wales every weekend with 2 children.
The day he got to sit up was a very strange day, because of the trauma to his body but also because we were warned that sitting up could paralyse him from the shift of weight. Each inch he sat up we waited with baited breath, as by this point he had been moving his legs and some fingers a little. This stage was one of the hardest of all but the sit up went well and he was finally out of bed.
He went through rehabilitation for another 3 months at Oswestry, making a brilliant recovery, which was made faster as the hospital gave us a flat to live in at weekends, to be a family.
He left hospital in September 2006 in time for the army move to Woodbridge. He got to be with his children and wife, which meant the world to him, yet was made all the harder by this great metal wheelchair that he had to get used to, and the fear of what his life was to become.
He started at Headley Court soon after we moved, spending 4 weeks there and 4 weeks at home. He would come on great at Headley Court, but do really well at home because the want to be with his children and play with them pushed him on each and every day, even on the days when he was so sad and fed up with his life.
Headley Court has been a great place for him to go to gain strength and be with one of the lads who was with him when he got hurt. He is now able to walk, although distance is limited and he has also lost the use of his left hand and suffers from different spinal syndromes. A lot of his recovery has been as a result of his time at Headley Court.
I had to take my girls to visit Headley Court one day to pick their dad up. Upon getting there we sat in the living room area waiting for him. When the lads came back from physio in the pool, the sight that we were greeted with was one that saddened me and upset my daughter. Men with arms, legs, eyes, parts of their heads missing and in wheelchairs are not sights a 6 year-old and a 3 year-old should ever have to see. But when you don’t have a place to go as a family, what else can you do?
My children and my husband would have loved to have been able to be together during this time at Headley Court, but there wasn’t anywhere to go to be together without having my child not be able to look these men in the eye because of the fear and sadness she was feeling.
If this house had been available to us it would not only have helped my children and my husband, it would have helped us to re-become a family, as on that day of the 10th of April, my family as it had been was destroyed. We have to move on as a new family with new constraints and that is something that only time can heal.
I only wish that if the people who are objecting to this house could spend 5 minutes in our lives and put their children through what mine have been through: they would be ashamed and disgusted at themselves I’m sure.
Laura Bertin
Many thanks again for all your work – what you are doing, it means a lot.
I spent a horrible night crying and feeling very alone, and feeling like my whole world had come to an end. My 6 year-old daughter awoke to find a mother beside herself and to be told that "Daddy has had an accident and at the moment can’t move his arms and legs but that we are going to work our hardest to fix him". Her response of "Is Daddy going to die?" will haunt my to the last day of my life.
My husband was flown home the following day to Selly Oak Hospital, where I had been taken to meet him. He was checked over and we were told that he had broken his neck in 5 places and to be honest he was lucky to still be here - had he not been a paratrooper and so fit he would have died as his chest-wall muscles were paralysed. He would be on a life support machine till that was fixed.
After a hard and testing week at Selly Oak, he was taken to Oswestry Spinal Hospital, where he stayed for 6 months. We were told he would need 6 weeks of total bed rest (strapped down), then he would have to work at sitting up and that we wouldn’t know if he was ever to walk again.
This 6 weeks turned into 11, which for a fit man was very hard and emotional for him to cope with and for me to watch. All this time I was driving from Cambridge to Wales every weekend with 2 children.
The day he got to sit up was a very strange day, because of the trauma to his body but also because we were warned that sitting up could paralyse him from the shift of weight. Each inch he sat up we waited with baited breath, as by this point he had been moving his legs and some fingers a little. This stage was one of the hardest of all but the sit up went well and he was finally out of bed.
He went through rehabilitation for another 3 months at Oswestry, making a brilliant recovery, which was made faster as the hospital gave us a flat to live in at weekends, to be a family.
He left hospital in September 2006 in time for the army move to Woodbridge. He got to be with his children and wife, which meant the world to him, yet was made all the harder by this great metal wheelchair that he had to get used to, and the fear of what his life was to become.
He started at Headley Court soon after we moved, spending 4 weeks there and 4 weeks at home. He would come on great at Headley Court, but do really well at home because the want to be with his children and play with them pushed him on each and every day, even on the days when he was so sad and fed up with his life.
Headley Court has been a great place for him to go to gain strength and be with one of the lads who was with him when he got hurt. He is now able to walk, although distance is limited and he has also lost the use of his left hand and suffers from different spinal syndromes. A lot of his recovery has been as a result of his time at Headley Court.
I had to take my girls to visit Headley Court one day to pick their dad up. Upon getting there we sat in the living room area waiting for him. When the lads came back from physio in the pool, the sight that we were greeted with was one that saddened me and upset my daughter. Men with arms, legs, eyes, parts of their heads missing and in wheelchairs are not sights a 6 year-old and a 3 year-old should ever have to see. But when you don’t have a place to go as a family, what else can you do?
My children and my husband would have loved to have been able to be together during this time at Headley Court, but there wasn’t anywhere to go to be together without having my child not be able to look these men in the eye because of the fear and sadness she was feeling.
If this house had been available to us it would not only have helped my children and my husband, it would have helped us to re-become a family, as on that day of the 10th of April, my family as it had been was destroyed. We have to move on as a new family with new constraints and that is something that only time can heal.
I only wish that if the people who are objecting to this house could spend 5 minutes in our lives and put their children through what mine have been through: they would be ashamed and disgusted at themselves I’m sure.
Laura Bertin
Many thanks again for all your work – what you are doing, it means a lot.
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I see what you mean Shettie, it was very moving and underlines the importance of a victory for this petition. I wish that guy and his family a miracle. They deserve it.
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DrunkenMonki
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I think if planning permission is refused, we should all save up and buy the damn place anyway. Then rent it one room at a time to chinese immigrants.
On a serious note though, shetties post is well distressing. Its easy to get upset when you hear about the guys that are killed, but i for one hadn't really thought about the loads of others that ARN'T killed. I hope the fella in the story makes as full a recovery as possible, and that the army treats him with the respect deserved.
On a serious note though, shetties post is well distressing. Its easy to get upset when you hear about the guys that are killed, but i for one hadn't really thought about the loads of others that ARN'T killed. I hope the fella in the story makes as full a recovery as possible, and that the army treats him with the respect deserved.
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POB
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Any Goaters going to be at the meeting? Please PM me for a co-ordinated effort.
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True Blue Jack
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What a great letter and I think it shows the objectors are in a diminishing minority. I would love to be at the meeting on Wednesday but I will be unable to get out of work in time to make it.
I will be keeping a very close eye on ARRSE on Wednesday evening for the first news of victory.
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POB
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Unashamed bump.
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elovabloke
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Or watch it live http://www.molevalley.ukcouncil.net/site/index.php
CodeMonkey
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POB
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We are now very close to third plce and 40,000 signatures, please ge on to the site and sign if you have not allready done so!
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Bluntend
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Or simply keep appealing - the council will not be able to bill for the time and effort caught up in processing the application until it is finally put to bed. If they think its going to be another 18 months before they see their cash, they may just give in. Hopefully it won't come to that - the overwhelming feeling from the public is really quite remarkable.
mad_collie
The Other Mods Made Me Do It
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Good luck today. Hopefully common sense will prevail.