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Olympics Faff!!!!!!!!

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That's not real! You can imagine the security guard carrying a lexmark printer and a ream of A4!

Piers Morgan would say its genuine!

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Nice rumour doing the rounds with the lads today. A P&O ferry is to be moored on the Thames as Temp accom for the extra military bods dicked for security.
 
I find it fecking disgusting that accommodation is brought in for bus drivers and that our forces are on camp beds.
 
grumpyoldb said:
I find it fecking disgusting that accommodation is brought in for bus drivers and that our forces are on camp beds.
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I don't think TfL keep a stock of camp beds "just in case". Unfortunately, we do, and we also have a reputation for getting the job done whatever the constraints and without holding the government for ransom for double pay.
 
True Blue Jack said:
I don't think TfL keep a stock of camp beds "just in case". Unfortunately, we do, and we also have a reputation for getting the job done whatever the constraints and without holding the government for ransom for double pay.
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Can you imagine the uproar in the press if a bus driver had to sleep on a camp bed? :PDT_Xtremez_42:
 
grumpyoldb said:
I find it fecking disgusting that accommodation is brought in for bus drivers and that our forces are on camp beds.
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Crisis management, that's all. If it were planned I'd wager they'd be in better accommodation. No one wants it, we just have to suck it up.
 
metimmee said:
Crisis management, that's all. If it were planned I'd wager they'd be in better accommodation. No one wants it, we just have to suck it up.
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Technically, (for this is my professional ploughed furrow), crisis management means bare base accommodation is acceptable for the minimum time, before better reasonable accommodation is secured. In crisis management, cost is uniquely not the issue but returning to the status quo ASAP.

This is contingency planning on the cheap, and getting away with all you can get away with, simply because you can get away with it.

And it absolutely sucks. 100%.
 
Stevienics said:
Technically, (for this is my professional ploughed furrow), crisis management means bare base accommodation is acceptable for the minimum time, before better reasonable accommodation is secured. In crisis management, cost is uniquely not the issue but returning to the status quo ASAP.

This is contingency planning on the cheap, and getting away with all you can get away with, simply because you can get away with it.

And it absolutely sucks. 100%.
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What would you have done? Fulfilling the requirements of centre of town, able to house that many personnel with (what appears/claimed to be) no notice.

It's less than ideal but has no relation to planned provision for cleaners, drivers etc because its crisis management and clearly unplanned. It's dry, warm and secure, there is food and they seem to be spinning up some welfare provision.

Do you seriously expect contingent accommodation for 3.5k?

I agree it sucks, but not 100%.
 
Crisis management is about buying time to achieve the next best desirable situation in the direction of the status quo, however small the gradation.

....for an extended project, are you seriously telling me that this cannot be improved upon? I could, on my own, with google, the will and a budget.

Oh yes, there's the issue.
 
Stevienics said:
Crisis management is about buying time to achieve the next best desirable situation in the direction of the status quo, however small the gradation.

....for an extended project, are you seriously telling me that this cannot be improved upon? I could, on my own, with google, the will and a budget.

Oh yes, there's the issue.
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It's 7 weeks in a serviced building in the centre of London, not 7 months in a flee pit sandy sh!thole at the end of a long logistical chain; it's adequate...and its not yet apparent *if* they plan to improve conditions during the Olympics in any case. They even promise to provide WiFi....let's hope they deliver that little luxury, along with ear plugs for those big rooms.

I'd rather be there than be rained on in a crappy tented city. Hotels? It's the Olympics! Cruise liner...maybe, but Kerching expensive and availability might be an issue unless the Queen demands it. 3500 spread over London in seperate billets, guest houses, hotels could work but difficult to administer, appeal to the public to give up spare rooms...could work but..not entirely satisfactory to say the least (imagining all sorts of headlines!)

I guess I'm a glass half full kind of guy. Considering it's just 7ish weeks, hopefully with a bit of down time programmed in for the unfortunate nominees. I don't think its too bad given the time to prepare. You also need to consider how any solution works within the wider scope of the Olympics and its management.
 
metimmee said:
It's 7 weeks in a serviced building in the centre of London, not 7 months in a flee pit sandy sh!thole at the end of a long logistical chain; it's adequate...and its not yet apparent *if* they plan to improve conditions during the Olympics in any case. They even promise to provide WiFi....let's hope they deliver that little luxury, along with ear plugs for those big rooms.

I'd rather be there than be rained on in a crappy tented city. Hotels? It's the Olympics! Cruise liner...maybe, but Kerching expensive and availability might be an issue unless the Queen demands it. 3500 spread over London in seperate billets, guest houses, hotels could work but difficult to administer, appeal to the public to give up spare rooms...could work but..not entirely satisfactory to say the least (imagining all sorts of headlines!)

I guess I'm a glass half full kind of guy. Considering it's just 7ish weeks, hopefully with a bit of down time programmed in for the unfortunate nominees. I don't think its too bad given the time to prepare. You also need to consider how any solution works within the wider scope of the Olympics and its management.
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I'd like to think we could do this...offer an amount of money to the individual to sort themselves out...that would have suited me just fine. However for the 95% of us who would have been able to take that concept on board there is that annoying 5% who always attempt to sleep in a box and save the money...so the set up as it is if not ideal will have to do...and the commanders who are probably firefighting 100% of their time right now as a situation thrust upon them at short notice [in some cases] settles down to business as usual if the accomodation isn't killing his troops and they are getting the essentials (sleep, food, shelter) he isn't going to rock the boat too much as it isn't permanent
 
propersplitbrainme said:
Well at least someone is trying to make things a little but better for the troops instead of just coming out with the usal mealy mouthed patronising crud.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18939010
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I have just been speaking to a mate who is on OP OLYMPIC. He is not one of the drafted in at the last minute guys but was stitched ages ago and has been down there for a good couple of weeks already. He reckons they are up for 0300/0400 every morning to get fed and bussed in on time, and are not finishing till 1830 ish before getting bussed back.

This is all before the games even have started, so when are they going to get chance to go see anything? He has just had a 3 day break, but apparently once the games start, then no down days at all.

Offering tickets to blokes who will be working when the events are on is a bit pointless?
 
Weebl said:
I have just been speaking to a mate who is on OP OLYMPIC. He is not one of the drafted in at the last minute guys but was stitched ages ago and has been down there for a good couple of weeks already. He reckons they are up for 0300/0400 every morning to get fed and bussed in on time, and are not finishing till 1830 ish before getting bussed back.

This is all before the games even have started, so when are they going to get chance to go see anything? He has just had a 3 day break, but apparently once the games start, then no down days at all.

Offering tickets to blokes who will be working when the events are on is a bit pointless?
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Well I suppose at least there is a little thought being offered towards them even though it may be impractical. Moynihan clearly thinks the lads and lasses will have enough down time to go and see events, it would seem thats incorrect.
 
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