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PAYD Bringing ISS To Its Knees

Remember being permanent staff at 4 s of tt in saloon, in the 80s. The chef in the permanent and some trainees mess use to rely on people going away at the weekend. Food on a Friday up till 4.45 was ok but after that the steaks and prawns came out. It was a pleasure to eat there.

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The JR Mess at Waddo was boycotted quite successfully in 1970. It only took one meal, a Monday lunchtime, to bring about a total change in the management.

By the time we arrived at the Mess for dinner the whole place had been stood on its head. WO Paddy Shannon had been brought in from RAF Newton, a wider meal selection was available in a more presentable manner, and the staff had been "reinvigorated"

I do not know if there are members of the Goat from that era who will recall that particular day. WO Shannon was an absolute tartar to work for, however, from the consumers perspective the man was a God send. Poorly motivated staff coupled with a lack of quality food, (There was a scam being operated in the ration store that resulted in several courts martial.) was the spur for that particular day of action.

A visit from P&SS in an attempt to track down the ringleaders proved less than fruitful. The up till then,lacklustre performance of the caterers was rapidly turned around by their new taskmaster to the benefit of us as users of the Mess.

A couple of days of no income should give the contractors food for thought, and give them the opportunity to drastically rethink their method of operation. Their CoC will want to know why nobody is consuming their wares. I can also assure you it is a surefire way to bring it to the attention of the RAF CoC.
 
Remember being permanent staff at 4 s of tt in saloon, in the 80s. The chef in the permanent and some trainees mess use to rely on people going away at the weekend. Food on a Friday up till 4.45 was ok but after that the steaks and prawns came out. It was a pleasure to eat there.

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thats still the case at that little ex RAF now MOD base by barry island
 
If we're looking back on great messes who remembers the junior ranks mess up at ISK in the 80's? I went up there for a four week course from STM in 87 and it was just outstanding... Several types of freshly baked bread, a choice of starters, steaks cooked to your liking and a duffers trolley that put you up a bra size just by looking at it.

To do that sort of thing on payd would mean charging 5-7 quid per sitting I reckon!

Food austerity is probably a good thing really... Do you or did you ever, outside of phase 1 training, really need three massive squares a day? Unless you have the metabolism of a hamster and if you go for gold at every mealtime it's going to eventually spell fitness test 'difficulties' in the future!
 
Remember being permanent staff at 4 s of tt in saloon, in the 80s. The chef in the permanent and some trainees mess use to rely on people going away at the weekend. Food on a Friday up till 4.45 was ok but after that the steaks and prawns came out. It was a pleasure to eat there.

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On a slightly unrelated subect, we used to pick up the rats for the weekend on a Friday fpr the MRT which were astonishing in the variety and quality, and when the Christmas rats were collected I swear they had simply robbed 15 days food money from everyone on the camp - absolutely brilliant food.

...that said, you never saw a caterer without a new gortex and Helly Jacket.
 
We had a cookie in the 23 Sqn feeder at Leeming, he was on his last tour and slaughtered the food budget. We ate like kings, then he left and we spent the rest of the year back on pasty and beans. Talk about going from the highs to the lows.

But the Londonderry Lodge truckstop turned out the biggest all day breakfast for £3.00 to make up for the dry pies.
 
Slightly off topic but, would it be against QR's or any other regs for that matter to actively organise a boycott on your own unit? Or would the SWO or OC Catering just 'order' you to knock it off?
 
Slightly off topic but, would it be against QR's or any other regs for that matter to actively organise a boycott on your own unit? Or would the SWO or OC Catering just 'order' you to knock it off?

Leuchars now.... no JR Ranks Bar ....NoJR dining Facility....Glad Im Out...WHAT A ****ING DISGRACE.....Im going to the press with this one....CHEERS HARRY ATKINSON YOU PRICK!!! love from all youre singlies xxx
 
Leuchars now.... no JR Ranks Bar ....NoJR dining Facility....Glad Im Out...WHAT A ****ING DISGRACE.....Im going to the press with this one....CHEERS HARRY ATKINSON YOU PRICK!!! love from all youre singlies xxx

Fatboy, slightly inaccurate statement. Its an infra matter not as a consequence of anything driven by an individual. I can assure that there is more than one person working their a*se off to provide a solution - I know cos I pursue this daily on behalf of my boys and girls. In the short term, JRs are eating in the SNCOs Mess and the Rugby Club is a better bar anyway!
 
Well the regulars at Marham mess all ate out last night. this will become the norm as the weather improves and we have BBQ's. they will learn that liver and onions, haggis and feckin meatballs are not "classics"
 
Feeder somewhere in Norfolk is getting worse. Prices have gone up yet all our constructive comments are met by 'limited budget'. Last night the core meals were sold out within half an hour so leaving only the more expensive option or omelette. I didn't mind so much as I like omelette but some of the guys had to go to tables asking if anyone had an extra 54p to get their food. Also why if you do pay more do you lose the items such as bread that come with a core meal??? Bread then costs 60p regardless of whether you have one slice or two. The feeder is becoming a farce and I for one will not be using this facility anymore.
 
Here at the Northern GR4 establishment, my singlie colleagues tell me the mess is pretty darn empty most mealtimes. My own take on the situation is that it was a bad idea from the outset. What were ISS smoking when they thought taking military catering on in this manner would be a valid business proposition?How in God's name did they think they would make a profit providing people with food for such a small amount of money? (The core menu) I believe the answer is that they thought by making the core menu unappealing, they would entice people to spend more money on the decent gear. What has actually happened, and was fairly obviously going to happen, is that people have voted with their feet. All the SLA bans on microwaves/hotplates etc in the world are not going to make any difference whatsoever, people simply lock them away come inspection time.Part of me actually feels a little sorry for ISS in a strange way, because they were certainly sold a pup by whoever the liaison group were for this whole debacle.
 
Feeder somewhere in Norfolk is getting worse. Prices have gone up yet all our constructive comments are met by 'limited budget'. Last night the core meals were sold out within half an hour so leaving only the more expensive option or omelette. I didn't mind so much as I like omelette but some of the guys had to go to tables asking if anyone had an extra 54p to get their food. Also why if you do pay more do you lose the items such as bread that come with a core meal??? Bread then costs 60p regardless of whether you have one slice or two. The feeder is becoming a farce and I for one will not be using this facility anymore.
I was led to believe that if they run out of core menu options, you could get the more expensive one at core menu rate... Or so a singly FS told me not that long ago anyways...
 
Here at a secret base just north of Lincoln we are yet to turn the corner to PAYD, it was due in June(ish) but has now slipped along the way towards November. ISS are however equipping the new JR accomodation (the ex old guys mess) with Wifi and a few other extras ahead of contract. Is this them trying to generate funds prior to their arrival?ESS currently run the catering and quality extends from poor to above par, needless to say the above par days are when we have an ex military chef behind the servery and not the ESS "ping" cooks.
 
Have prices in mess or section bars gone up with any of this shenanigans?
 
SLA bans on microwaves/hotplates etc

I wonder what happened to the PAYD pledge that "we would have more choice in where we eat"? Its even written in their news letters, leaflets, etc.... So we should look forward to cooking in the block.

Students can cook in their halls. You can but an oven on an aircraft with x amount of fuel on board no problem.

This "JR singlies setting the block on fire but nobody else does" is stereotyping. Some junior ranks I know are more mature and responsible than married guys who live out with a cooker at home.

If you install a induction hob in the block, there is no fire hazard at all. A quote from wiki...

" Induction cookers are safer to use than conventional cookers because there are no open flames. The surface below the cooking vessel is no hotter than the vessel; only the pan generates heat. The control system shuts down the element if a pot is not present or not large enough. Induction cookers are easy to clean because the cooking surface is flat and smooth, even though it may have several heating zones. Since the cooking surface is not directly heated, spilled food does not burn on the surface.Since heat is being generated by an induced electric current, the unit can detect whether cookware is present (or whether its contents have boiled dry) by monitoring how much power is being absorbed. That allows functions such as keeping a pot at minimal boil or automatically turning an element off when cookware is removed. "
 
All the SLA bans on microwaves/hotplates etc in the world are not going to make any difference whatsoever, people .
It isn't a blanket ban in SLA. The SLAM blocks in Leeming all have fully fitted kitchen facilites and so do the SLAM blocks in most of Germany.
 
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