So are you expectant, hopeful or worried? For perhaps differing reasons it will be a sad and unexpected day for some, yet a joyus and happy one for others, I just hope you get what you want from the process, not everyone will, I fear.
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FootTapper
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Nice one, cheers. I'm not near a work computer so couldn't have a look for myself.
Interesting point that someone else makes about the brunt being B and C candidates. 350 sounds like a lot, but 100 or more of those would be A candidates, possibly another 50-100 either with <3 years seniority or <3 years left to serve.
Then take away those OOA, which would be another dozen or so.... narrows the "possible" field down quite a bit
Soon To Leave
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I wouldn't get too bogged down with A, B or C's. A short seniority C candidate that had his first SJAR after posting with the right Qs may be seen as a better long term prospect that an A candidate that has worked on a Project Team for 10 years, bulls his toe caps every morning and has 10 secondary duties. The important bit of the SJAR will be the responsibilities section and job title.
FootTapper
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I never thought to ask about it last time...
Do you know if it's possible to get a debrief from the RSB about where in the list you were and what the reasoning for your scores was?
Do you know if it's possible to get a debrief from the RSB about where in the list you were and what the reasoning for your scores was?
If you are referring to an RSB then you are fairly wide of the mark. The important aspect is what is written in sjar. The specialist member on the board provides the context on the various job roles if required. The RSB will read the reports looking for evidence of contribution to the RAF and consistent high performance balanced with a view on future value.
reluctant liney
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Ah! working for the future of PAYD, I like it, or should that be I'm loving it?
It should be, "Would you like fries with that?"DT_Xtremez_31:
No, the quote these day is surely, 'do you want to go large for 30p?'
DT_Xtremez_07:No, the quote these day is surely, 'do you want to go large for 30p?'
As long as you're proud to serve....
Soon To Leave
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Not much consolation if you had a crap 1RO for the last 2 or 3 years!
Deadwood
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There are many threads on here, including this one, expressing the views that the 'good guys' will be selected and the 'deadwood' will stay.
So to be brutally honest and un pc, if your SJAR scores are so bad that even the 'weighting' scores don’t save you, you are considered the 'deadwood and you will be released.
I don’t necessarily agree but as the selection board is subjective, they have one shot at selecting people that they consider to be surplus to requirements’, many on here will find reason to find fault. I am sure that if a different set of board members sat the following day there would be a slightly different outcome.
It is only politeness/weakness which prevents alot of folk stating the obvious.
Deadwood
There are many threads on here, including this one, expressing the views that the 'good guys' will be selected and the 'deadwood' will stay.
So to be brutally honest and un pc, if your SJAR scores are so bad that even the 'weighting' scores don’t save you, you are considered the 'deadwood and you will be released.
I don’t necessarily agree but as the selection board is subjective, they have one shot at selecting people that they consider to be surplus to requirements’, many on here will find reason to find fault. I am sure that if a different set of board members sat the following day there would be a slightly different outcome.
It is only politeness/weakness which prevents alot of folk stating the obvious.
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Should the deadwood go and the good guys retained? Of course they should.
Will the deadwood go and the good guys be retained? Probably not.
Will the deadwood go and the good guys be retained? Probably not.
goldenballs mkII
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Do the good guys want to go and the deadwood want to stay?
Most likely!DT_Xtremez_31:
Most likely!
DT_Xtremez_31:Do the good guys want to go and the deadwood want to stay?
Most likely!
It was always thus...the good guys leave knowing they will be successful outside, and the garbage stays in because large government organisations (military, civil service, NHS) are great places for them to hide.
I've watched the rising stars leave and finally realised that if I don't go, I'll be one of the cynical wasters that's left behind. Had to PVR as not eligible for Tranche 1 or 2, but I'm looking forward to starting my new job.
Good luck to those who want to stay, but if you are picked there are plenty of jobs outside for those who can and want to work.
DT_Xtremez_30:It was always thus...the good guys leave knowing they will be successful outside, and the garbage stays in because large government organisations (military, civil service, NHS) are great places for them to hide.
I've watched the rising stars leave and finally realised that if I don't go, I'll be one of the cynical wasters that's left behind. Had to PVR as not eligible for Tranche 1 or 2, but I'm looking forward to starting my new job.
Good luck to those who want to stay, but if you are picked there are plenty of jobs outside for those who can and want to work.
If you are SELECTED for redundancy, you are the (alleged) 'garbage'(your word not mine). If you pvr then that is a personal choice but does not necessarily mean you are a good guy and the RAF should keep you. Being told you are not wanted is not nice. It is the only way that they could acheive the reduction in manning.
As was proved, IMHO, the deadwood were selected last time.
Soon To Leave
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I hope the selectors are more objective than subjective and see through personal opinion to get to the facts.
One person's 'good guy' is another's 'deadwood' after all.
Soon To Leave
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It was always thus...the good guys leave knowing they will be successful outside, and the garbage stays in because large government organisations (military, civil service, NHS) are great places for them to hide.
I've watched the rising stars leave and finally realised that if I don't go, I'll be one of the cynical wasters that's left behind. Had to PVR as not eligible for Tranche 1 or 2, but I'm looking forward to starting my new job.
Good luck to those who want to stay, but if you are picked there are plenty of jobs outside for those who can and want to work.
Some people stay because they joined for the right reasons. Some people go because now they have to work for a living, they can't stand the heat!
XVR RA RA RA
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Or another way of putting it, is those who stay are actually interested in their job and like doing it. Surely the RAF is better off if it's people actually want to be there and are pro-active.
Many RSBs would have tracked back further than your last few reports, so it should balance out. If you haven't ensured that your reports are accurate then you really only have yourself to blame!
I thought the brief for the RSB was to read the last 3?