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Rocket_Ronster said:
I'd argue with just about all your expenditure column.
If the vulnerable need support now, they needed it before.
Can't see why Child Benefit has gone up (maybe in 9mths)
Public transport has always been subsidised, all that's happened is privatised profit nationalised debt, again.
Services are more efficient
Loans are loans
The Care Sector was a travesty, £1500pw for a resident, min wage immigrant to do the work.
Rumour on the grapevine, our nearest Nightingale can't open for patients as the oxygen pipes were installed with plastic not copper piping. Give 'em money, they'll waste it.
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I'll bite on the oxygen lines thing, I work as a project engineer for one of the companies that are supplying the new hospitals, as surprising as it may seem there are a few companies in this country that normally provide gases to hospitals all of which know what standards we need to work to for medical oxygen service, strangely enough some plastics are very good for this service whereas copper isn't, in contact with oxy and moisture it degrades quickly.

as for the whole getting back to work thing, I think there may be a fear from those that have been latent that they are at danger, my own experience is that if you've worked throughout you tend to fear this virus a bit less than if you have been at home watching the news for a few weeks
 
briggfairy said:
I'll bite on the oxygen lines thing, I work as a project engineer for one of the companies that are supplying the new hospitals, as surprising as it may seem there are a few companies in this country that normally provide gases to hospitals all of which know what standards we need to work to for medical oxygen service, strangely enough some plastics are very good for this service whereas copper isn't, in contact with oxy and moisture it degrades quickly.

as for the whole getting back to work thing, I think there may be a fear from those that have been latent that they are at danger, my own experience is that if you've worked throughout you tend to fear this virus a bit less than if you have been at home watching the news for a few weeks
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No bite reqd/intended. As I said, just a rumour, and we all know what they're like.
Personally I think it's brilliant they've knocked up a 5000 bed hospital, and it'll be brillianter if it stays unused.

To the second point, we've been at work all through, and I'm scared. I think up here in't frozen North we're weeks/months behind London, but the govt think we're all the same. We haven't had our first peak yet, word is that'll be mid-June. So any relaxation is very premature.
 
Back in late Feb I was at a briefing where the modelling suggested last week in May first week in June for the peak in the UK. Restricting movement seems to have dragged that way to the left to 8th April.
 
Vim_Fuego said:
Back in late Feb I was at a briefing where the modelling suggested last week in May first week in June for the peak in the UK. Restricting movement seems to have dragged that way to the left to 8th April.
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I think that's what "flattening the curve" was supposed to do...delay the peak and spread a lesser problem over a longer period.
 
There was a MP on the radio this morning discussing the horrors of a ‘second wave’. Of course there’s going to be a second wave of this virus and here’s the reason.

Humanity has evolved an immune system that relies on social interaction. We touch, kiss, hug, our children play in the dirt and mud, licking things which should never be licked. The consequence is that we encounter and swap viruses and germs with our bodies developing antibodies to fight them.

What happens do you think when we lock people in their homes, socially distance them at the same time obsessively washing our hands and cleaning our homes with products guaranteed to kill 99.9% of germs? When we are finally ‘released’ from this lockdown we’ll see a lot of people with lowered immune systems encountering the Covid19 virus. It will not go well.

There was further discussion on how they were going to eradicate the virus. I look forward to the government doing that, perhaps they could also follow that up with sorting out influenza. On the subject of influenza and how it relates to Covid19, this piece of history tells it own story.

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Barch said:
Not forgetting the use of vaccines over the last 200 years or so.
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We do have flu vaccine but still thousands die from the flu every year, including those who had the jab. The problem is identifying exactly which strain of influenza is going to cause the most problems each year. As I understand it, the Covid virus has already mutated a fair amount from the original Wuhan variety. That’s going to make finding a workable vaccine difficult. SARS was a coronavirus, still no vaccine.
 
Isnt COVID supposed to be more like a cold, obviously not as bad as Man Colds, and I tend to have at least a couple of those a year.
 
busby1971 said:
Isnt COVID supposed to be more like a cold, obviously not as bad as Man Colds, and I tend to have at least a couple of those a year.
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I think we're going to have to wait for the final report to come out on this one. If more people have been affected than they think but without becoming ill or merely having mild symptoms then the virus was not overly dangerous. One question in fact. How many people have we seen just keel over in the street? Lots of videos out of China showing people collapsing left, right and centre but not happening in any other country. Bit strange.
 
I think the preventative laws about social gatherings should be amended.

From the BBC South Yorkshire ...

"Under the Act, all 44 charges were incorrect because they did not cover potentially infectious people, which is what the legislation is intended for."

www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk

Police chiefs apologise after dozens wrongly charged under coronavirus laws

Police chiefs and prosecutors have apologised after dozens of people were wrongly charged under new coronavirus laws.
www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk

What frigging idiot put that "potentially infectious people" into the legislation ?
 
Its not all doom gloom death and despondency amongst the sadness there are a few nuggets of good news. Working from home has been a big success, the benefits are now apparent even to the most stick in the mud management. It's not just the transmission of Covid 19 that's been reduced but transmission of other viral diseases such as a range of STD's has slowed. Drug dealers have found life harder as they struggle to move their cr@p around unseen. Older folk (Me) have used internet shopping for the mundane stuff of life way more than in pre Covid days, click and collect etc. Cash is now used less and less and people have discovered that that's fine. Cleaner air with less flying, driving etc. In these seemingly dark days any other good news items you have seen?
 
The sooner we deploy armed troops onto the streets with orders to ‘shoot to kill’ anyone not social distancing properly the better.
 
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