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Pay Rise 2009

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I beleive there is a subtle difference between updated and uploaded. Yes you can see your pay but if you look today you will see no record of March's pay. But if you ask your friendly BSW Staff, they can see it on there screen (March pay run that is).
 
Wilberforce said:
I beleive there is a subtle difference between updated and uploaded. Yes you can see your pay but if you look today you will see no record of March's pay. But if you ask your friendly BSW Staff, they can see it on there screen (March pay run that is).
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then surely my friendly BSW staff can see the new pay scales....
so come on shineys, do use techies a favour and tell us what you know!!!
 
I can see March's pay run on JPA, but as the pay rise (assuming there is one!) doesn't kick in until 01 Apr, we couldn't see it anyway. We are just as keen as you techies are to see the new scales, see how much extra we are getting on the higher pay band...
 
Shinyscot said:
I can see March's pay run on JPA, but as the pay rise (assuming there is one!) doesn't kick in until 01 Apr, we couldn't see it anyway. We are just as keen as you techies are to see the new scales, see how much extra we are getting on the higher pay band...
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here we go again...... lol
 
Shinyscot said:
I can see March's pay run on JPA, but as the pay rise (assuming there is one!) doesn't kick in until 01 Apr, we couldn't see it anyway. We are just as keen as you techies are to see the new scales, see how much extra we are getting on the higher pay band...
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Oooooooh, that was low blow.:PDT_Xtremez_35::PDT_Xtremez_34:
 
Good times CPI Bad times RPI

Good times CPI Bad times RPI

Cynical mode on - they quote the lower CPI during the good times and now they quote the lower RPI during the bad times, based on the RPI a 0% pay rise is an inflation busting pay rise, and a 0.1% pay rise would be 100% more than no pay rise.

Numbers Numbers Numbers

GB distorts, double counts and hides numbers all the time, lets just wait and see.
 
stacker1195 said:
Thought you'd might like to know that this quote:
'However, the Armed Forces are likely to enjoy slightly higher rises to reflect demanding deployments in Iraq and Afghan-istan and a retention crisis.'

was taken from this article from today's Times.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article5963352.ece
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and this doesn't look promising either from the same article.

"An announcement on most pay deals was expected tomorrow, but such is the current uncertainty about “content and timing” in Whitehall that a final decision may be delayed for three weeks, according to officials."
 
Just to keep you conspiracy theorists happy...

Why Has the 2009 Pay Award Not Been Announced Yet?
Compared to other years the Annual Pay award for the Armed Services is much delayed this year. Some cynics would say that the Government is waiting for the Retail Price Index (RPI) to fall in order for a minimal pay award to appear generous. In response a member of the Pay Policy Staff says:
"I am not surprised at with these questions. Many others are asking something similar and, by the nature of this business, it is inevitable that delay to the normal timetable will be regarded suspiciously. I will do what I can to answer within the constraints I face.

"You will understand, I hope, why I can say little about the specifics of this year’s award at the present time. Until an announcement is made nothing is certain. What I can say is that the Armed Forces Pay Review Body (AFPRB) process is complete less the announcement, and has been for a little while.
"A decision was made by the Government to delay so as to coordinate the AFPRB announcement with other related news. There is no intention not to deliver this award wef 1 April 09 but I cannot tell you exactly when an announcement will be made but it is expected very soon. I have seen no evidence of manoeuvrings along the 'RPI falling line' suggested.
"Conspiracy theories inevitably will abound but I can assure you that all Service evidence has been carefully received and considered and AFPRB is as well informed regarding the realities of what’s being asked of our service personnel and their families as they could be. The Board met this past year 3,500 service personnel and spouses in several hundred formal discussion groups during 25 visits in GB, NI, Belgium, Cyprus, Iraq and Afghanistan and saw the worst and best of our dining facilities and accommodation in each location.
"I am confident that their recommendations will reflect all they learned. You may also be encouraged to note that over the last 10 years HMG has accepted every AFPRB recommendation. I hope that this year’s news might not be as bad as some fear though, as said before, there are no guarantees until an announcement is made."
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From here
 
Another Snippet

The only comforting quote is

"However, the Armed Forces are likely to enjoy slightly higher rises to reflect demanding deployments in Iraq and Afghan-istan and a retention crisis."
 
Sospan said:
Another Snippet

The only comforting quote is

"However, the Armed Forces are likely to enjoy slightly higher rises to reflect demanding deployments in Iraq and Afghan-istan and a retention crisis."
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Once again Sospan.... finger pulse, finger pulse - it was posted on this thread not 5 posts ago..... :PDT_Xtremez_14:

Look here!!!!!
 
FOMz said:
Once again Sospan.... finger pulse, finger pulse - it was posted on this thread not 5 posts ago..... :PDT_Xtremez_14:

Look here!!!!!
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I hang my head in shame. Thats twice in two days, I must be going mad with old age!

They have been banging on in the news about the RPI this morning stating the main reason for its fall is mortgage rates, how will this compare to the MOD personnel where a significantly larger percentage pay rent rather than mortgage compared with general society?
 
Sospan said:
Another Snippet

The only comforting quote is

"However, the Armed Forces are likely to enjoy slightly higher rises to reflect demanding deployments in Iraq and Afghan-istan and a retention crisis."
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Cool. I look forward to my slice of the pie for homeland security.
Yeh right.:PDT_Xtremez_35:
 
An extract from the Families' Federation website reads:

Compared to other years the Annual Pay award for the Armed Services is much delayed this year. Some cynics would say that the Government is waiting for the Retail Price Index (RPI) to fall in order for a minimal pay award to appear generous. In response a member of the Pay Policy Staff says:
"I am not surprised at with these questions. Many others are asking something similar and, by the nature of this business, it is inevitable that delay to the normal timetable will be regarded suspiciously. I will do what I can to answer within the constraints I face.

"You will understand, I hope, why I can say little about the specifics of this year’s award at the present time. Until an announcement is made nothing is certain. What I can say is that the Armed Forces Pay Review Body (AFPRB) process is complete less the announcement, and has been for a little while.
"A decision was made by the Government to delay so as to coordinate the AFPRB announcement with other related news. There is no intention not to deliver this award wef 1 April 09 but I cannot tell you exactly when an announcement will be made but it is expected very soon. I have seen no evidence of manoeuvrings along the 'RPI falling line' suggested.

But does this mean we will get a big rise which will be announced concurrently with some bad news, or a small/no rise announced with good news.

The full article can be found here, although there ain't much more to it: http://www.raf-families-federation.org.uk/financial-news.asp?id=234
 
JPA has been updated with the new salary, unfortuantely it's not available to view as a self service user, and HR can only see salary minus X factor in a persons grade/step placement.
 
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riffraff said:
JPA has been updated with the new salary, unfortuantely it's not available to view as a self service user, and HR can only see salary minus X factor in a persons grade/step placement.
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If riffraff is right have any shiney's looked at the grade step and worked out the difference?
 
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