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Pay Rise 2009

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spicey and coke said:
With rumours of 2.8% being applied would everyone be happy with that as a payrise
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No. If we get 2.8% I am going to carry out a dirty protest outside no10!!

We deserve at least 15%, our manning (in my trade) is at 85% so we should pick up that extra 15%.

That would be a nice total of 17%. :PDT_Xtremez_30:

You can't beat my grasp of basic mathematics, I should run for chancellor.
 
MrMasher said:
No. If we get 2.8% I am going to carry out a dirty protest outside no10!!

We deserve at least 15%, our manning (in my trade) is at 85% so we should pick up that extra 15%.

That would be a nice total of 17%. :PDT_Xtremez_30:

You can't beat my grasp of basic mathematics, I should run for chancellor.
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Not in your condition Mr M!!!


I would be happy with 2.8% but even happier if they announce a review into the pay level structure.
 
Sospan said:
Not in your condition Mr M!!!


I would be happy with 2.8% but even happier if they announce a review into the pay level structure.
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Beware what you ask for. I seem to remember a previous thread suggesting a 5 tier pay structure...............with techies on level 3!
 
Pay cut in real terms

Pay cut in real terms

A 2.8% pay rise is a pay cut in real terms, however, in the current climate, the government could try to give us less.

So whilst not happy, I think with all things considered it would be on the low side of fair.

If the DIN about charges are right then it's good to see that at least the Government knows the true rate of inflation, when it wants too.
 
Bucc Boy said:
Excellent explanation SgtScribbly, it makes perfect sense and adds up too.

I am still a little confused on the wider picture though. If we are saying that the pay rise has already (effectively) been given via the medium of JPA then why all the secrecy from the government over its release?

2.8% sounds good but as I am not too familiar with JPA I wouldn't know where to look for Aprils pay rate. The furthest I have ventured is my pay chit about 7days before we get paid.
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The JPA access we have that allows us to fcuk your pay up has a particular screen call grade step and shows your basic wage (before the x factor) and has a start date and an end date (usually from/to your ibd date) everyones end date is currently 31 Mar 09, ie the end of the current pay year. JPA gives you the ability to change the effective date of the system to see what is happening to peoples pay etc in the future and that is how we can see the new rates.

Perhaps the secrecy from the government comes from what they are going to announce about other public sector workers and not us. I personally think 2.8% for us is fine, and wont be seen as too much or to little from any parties.



AVSNCO said:
Yes 2.8% would be nice, however, the rules by which the payrise should be assessed should give a rise around the 5% region - CPI/RPI, affectively the rises in the cost of living.
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Not seen this rule before (you got a link to where it says it should be worked out by this method?) But I think 5% would be seen by some as too much in the current climate and could lead to public support for us declining.


AVSNCO said:
Anyway until I see it in black and white I trust no-one, especially an over-paid adminer!
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We arent over paid till wednesday by the way.

:PDT_Xtremez_15:
 
SgtScribbly said:
But I think 5% would be seen by some as too much in the current climate and could lead to public support for us declining.
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You honestly think so? With the level of support from the public in recent times I would have thought it would have had little to no resistance from Joe Public.
 
PM's questions

PM's questions

Has anyone seen a confirmed answer as to what (or should I say if?) pay rise we are getting yet? Nope? Didn't think so. I think we should face facts and just accept that the cost of living is on the rise and we are getting our "bonus" of having a stable job which we can't get made redundant from. More fool those who are PVR-ing! The govt can't afford to give us a pay rise because of the banks high risk lending "strategy".

The only pay rise I expect to see is in Oct, when I blaze up to level 6 higher pay band Cpl!

P.s I'm ex tg3, now 4 so no biatching about my trade swindling everyone elses!
 
Facts?

Facts?

chumpzilla said:
Has anyone seen a confirmed answer as to what (or should I say if?) pay rise we are getting yet? Nope? Didn't think so. I think we should face facts and just accept that the cost of living is on the rise and we are getting our "bonus" of having a stable job which we can't get made redundant from. More fool those who are PVR-ing! The govt can't afford to give us a pay rise because of the banks high risk lending "strategy".
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You can be made redundant, people were made compulsary redundant during the Options drawdown, just like anybody else, the terms of which have just been massively downgraded, following the generous recent bouts of redundancy (that you obviously did not notice).
 
Apologies Busby, but what trades were they? Didn't occur much in Tg3. I thought it was more the a/c trades. Maybe I generalised a bit, what I meant was, unless you do something insanely stupid, you are pretty much guarenteed a job until you choose otherwise!

Sorry again for not being the font of all knowledge, but I generally put the effort in at work, and then goi home and forget about it until I go back!
 
Nothing personal bud

Nothing personal bud

chumpzilla said:
Apologies Busby, but what trades were they? Didn't occur much in Tg3. I thought it was more the a/c trades. Maybe I generalised a bit, what I meant was, unless you do something insanely stupid, you are pretty much guarenteed a job until you choose otherwise!

Sorry again for not being the font of all knowledge, but I generally put the effort in at work, and then goi home and forget about it until I go back!
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It's not personal, just life, a lot of people feel they have a job for life, but having done P1, PSF and Discharges in the past I can tell you now that something could happen in the next 5 minutes that could see your service life fall apart as quickly as that.

As far as TG3 , AD, AR, TC, EL and now this new fangled TG4 malarky you've never been overmanned so I wouldn't worry about redunancy. During options it was mainly the catering trade that got hit, don't think they've ever recovered.
 
busby1971 said:
It's not personal, just life, a lot of people feel they have a job for life, but having done P1, PSF and Discharges in the past I can tell you now that something could happen in the next 5 minutes that could see your service life fall apart as quickly as that.
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What you trying to say?
 
busby1971 said:
It's not personal, just life, a lot of people feel they have a job for life, but having done P1, PSF and Discharges in the past I can tell you now that something could happen in the next 5 minutes that could see your service life fall apart as quickly as that.
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I don't disbelieve you, but like what?
 
A tribute to SGT Scribbly

A tribute to SGT Scribbly

Nice one Sgt Scribbly, nice bit of fault diagnosis applied there as to where our payrise is. Being that fault diagnosis is central to any good techies repetoir, then welcome to the higher payband !
The weather may be not for Op Bronze today here at the COB, but it can now be wasted working out what 2.8% is in real terms. Yeehah...a new CD from Amazon.co.uk no doubt !!
 
sinnick said:
Nice one Sgt Scribbly, nice bit of fault diagnosis applied there as to where our payrise is. Being that fault diagnosis is central to any good techies repetoir, then welcome to the higher payband !
The weather may be not for Op Bronze today here at the COB, but it can now be wasted working out what 2.8% is in real terms. Yeehah...a new CD from Amazon.co.uk no doubt !!
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Far be it from me to be cynical; but, WTF is this about???

:PDT_Xtremez_42:
 
This just adds to the list of reasons why people will consider voting elsewhere come the election.

When is the next general election due?
 
And when it does - you're in for more of the same. So don't go getting your hopes up of a major change, because it just wont happen. All it mean is another self serving tw@t fcuking it up for everyone else.
 
FOMz said:
And when it does - you're in for more of the same. So don't go getting your hopes up of a major change, because it just wont happen. All it mean is another self serving tw@t fcuking it up for everyone else.
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Now that kind of cynical comment I DO like...

:PDT_Xtremez_28:
 
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