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I had to watch last nights episode after all the fuss and vitriol following the first show in the series. To be fair it wasn't as bad as I expected and generally showed the RAF in a favourable light - it still wont't change the Army's opinion of us but then again nothing ever will. Kate didn't come across as anything other than a young clk out on ops; yes she's a bit wet behind the ears and said things that made her look a bit dizzy but come on folks, let's be fair - we've all been there and said things that didn't come across quite how we meant them. At the end of the day she was doing the job she was told to do.
 
I did like the look on her face when she got to Bastion and found out where she'd be spending the night, not a mirror in sight and just 2 cot beds in the tent. None of her "home" comforts that she has at Kandahar.
 
Last nights was a bit better with the Rocks in it but I think the damage has been done with the series unfortunately.

Its a PR nightmare, the army get Ross Kemp in Afghanistan and what do we get, "My loaded rifle scares me" .. Jesus Wept.

This series has been done back to front, it should have concentrated on the aircraft, the roles and the support they provide, then a look at the Engineering and Support side. And then finally the conditions they live in, but its all been done the wrong way round and I think has set the RAF back to the PR stone age and just compunded the assumptions that the Pongo's have about us.

The Ross Kemp programme generated a lot of understanding of the Army's job in Afghanistan by showing what happened at the sharp end, this seems to be glaringly obvious to everyone except the RAF PR people apparently.
 
Dink said:
Last nights was a bit better with the Rocks in it but I think the damage has been done with the series unfortunately.

Its a PR nightmare, the army get Ross Kemp in Afghanistan and what do we get, "My loaded rifle scares me" .. Jesus Wept.

This series has been done back to front, it should have concentrated on the aircraft, the roles and the support they provide, then a look at the Engineering and Support side. And then finally the conditions they live in, but its all been done the wrong way round and I think has set the RAF back to the PR stone age and just compunded the assumptions that the Pongo's have about us.

The Ross Kemp programme generated a lot of understanding of the Army's job in Afghanistan by showing what happened at the sharp end, this seems to be glaringly obvious to everyone except the RAF PR people apparently.
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How true.... I managed to catch a few snippets of the Ross Kemp one when I was in Afghan, mainly the last epsisode and I along with the other lads I watched it with all had tears in our eyes at the end. It was brilliant PR for the Army and I have heard nothing but praise for the whole series.

I agree last nights wasn't as bad as the first one but none the less the damage has been done. This could have been a brilliant oppertunity for the RAF to show what we do in theatre and maybe gain some respect from our Army/Naval friends as well as Joe Public however we have blown it thanks to our stupid PR team ...... nice one fellas!!!!
 
RAF Bird said:
I agree last nights wasn't as bad as the first one but none the less the damage has been done. This could have been a brilliant oppertunity for the RAF to show what we do in theatre and maybe gain some respect from our Army/Naval friends as well as Joe Public however we have blown it thanks to our stupid PR team ...... nice one fellas!!!!
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This series should be called 'Carry On Combat Clerk' or 'Where Crabs fear to tread'.

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Its a good job the TG 17 SACs did not move up into the Higher Band with young clerks making such stupid comments as in the series.
 
Having missed last weeks episode and seen the comments on this thread, I decided to watch the programme last night.

My feeling was that the programme was trying to show a lighter side to life and not become a copy of Ross Kemps series. However I sat there grimacing as a rock had his wash kit spread around the compound, with another doing press ups for not having his ID card. Whilst I believe they attempted to show how serious they were taking things, in this instance I believe it backfired big time and made the rock look unprofessional. Something I would never dream of saying.

As for Kate whilst her comments where no doubt her feelings, and not wanting to comment on her ability to do her job (which seem to change titles as the programme went on) I feel she came across as a little girl playing at soldiers, unlike the army female drivers shown in a programme I watched over Christmas which left you feeling nothing but the utmost respect for them.

I don't like programmes that are clearly edited to show specific points, however this one could have done with some. Whoever is in the PR team for the RAF should be hanging their heads in shame as their were parts of this that should have never got off the cutting room floor.
 
This Is a good for me as im starting my training at Honington on the 25th and I have'nt really seen anything about the RAF reg in Afghanistan so it's a good insight. :PDT_Xtremez_19:


I was just wondering which squadron is due out to Afghanistan next? and when?
 
It showed where the RAF's priorities lie though. When the dizzy clerk went to get her bed for the night, the sign on the door read "Flt Lt ****** ******* plus 2". Still the officer class rule eh?
 
Dave-exfairy said:
It showed where the RAF's priorities lie though. When the dizzy clerk went to get her bed for the night, the sign on the door read "Flt Lt ****** ******* plus 2". Still the officer class rule eh?
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Never mind, we know they are a bunch of c0cks. Who cares what it says on the door! :PDT_Xtremez_31::PDT_Xtremez_31:
 
raf firemen must have calmed down a bit now they are "firefighters",years ago,they would have knocked a table up out of anything wood going or just walked off with someone elses.
 
Was I the only one who cringed at the Padres smile as he said words to the effect "Eveyones happy and my sack is empty" after delivering parcels Santa stylie.
 
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spanners said:
I’ll bite the bullet and say that my opinion of Kate has certainly changed. She is a young girl, on Ops, doing what she has to do. Her only crime, naive! Perhaps a bit more supervision is required. Apart from that, is she doing anything different than we have all done? Remember, we may not have had camera’s filming us, just imagine what they could have captured 20 years ago!
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You DIRTY old Man Spanners!! LOL

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br9mp81 said:
raf firemen must have calmed down a bit now they are "firefighters",years ago,they would have knocked a table up out of anything wood going or just walked off with someone elses.
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I'd have thought they'd have trouble; with damn all, in the middle of a desert, there being no-one else to pinch from. As it is "the lads at the Harrier Squadron" made it. I thought that was very British.

Incidentally which twerp told that young Gunner that the 'slot' in the bayonet was a Blood Channel ? It ain't. It's a device for saving weight and getting the 'balance' right.
 
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I'd have thought they'd have trouble; with damn all, in the middle of a desert, there being no-one else to pinch from. As it is "the lads at the Harrier Squadron" made it. I thought that was very British.

Incidentally which twerp told that young Gunner that the 'slot' in the bayonet was a Blood Channel ? It ain't. It's a device for saving weight and getting the 'balance' right.
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Quite right mate, there is no need for a "blood groove", the simple motion of twisting the blade on removal (that is taught) is more than sufficient to oppose any "suction". The "groove" lightens the blades weight!
 
Off topic slightly but I'm in the army's OTC (looking at the RAF Reg after uni) and we have also been taught that it is the 'blood channel' to reduce suction when removing the blade, so I think it must be on the syllabus now. Personally i thought it was bollox also because the chavs don't seem to have any problems removing their blades whilst 'out shanking'...
 
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