Cpl-Sgt Board 2012

[The Masked Geek]

B grade, 4 years a fecking B grade, very good SJARs what else do i need to do?[/QUOTE]

Get over yourself maybe? DT_Xtremez_14:


Promotion has always been a lottery in the RAF and even more so now. The last Cpl I wrote a spec for was promoted a few weeks later off the high I had written for him the year before.

Too many report writers criticise the SJAR writing of others and neglect to look carefuly at their own. My last Warrant was a case in point, although he did use two of my creations as examples to beat the other sneks with......

It's not about flowery prose or literary genius; it's about simple and powerful statements. An SJAR full of superlatives may look impressive on the surface but if it has no solid foundation, you may aswell wipe your ar5e on it.

 

[trotterdave]

Any guesses on when they're going to start dishing out the notices then, and how many in the first batch?

I know it's still early days, but I guess the lucky persons will just want to know ASAP?

Well done to the people who have been successful this time around

 

[Reject Clerk]

I would have imagined that most should already know by now.

As for the board going up to 60 - utter codswallop.

AFAIK no-one at Corsham got it, a few were close, some totally overlooked as usual and others in the frame when clearly they sholdn't be - but who am I to judge.

Good luck to those that do get it, you are going to need it.

 

[ckinfi]

Promotions

Promotions

I'm trying to use the magic of Facebook to get an indication of people being promoted. So far it looks like not many!! Does anyone know how many who came of this board are in the first batch? Then the second etc etc?

 

[rugby then work]

initial release is 10, after that it will depend on the need.

 

[ckinfi]

Fingers Crossed!

 

[Goldie Locks]

I'm trying to use the magic of Facebook to get an indication of people being promoted. So far it looks like not many!! Does anyone know how many who came of this board are in the first batch? Then the second etc etc?

I believe they are looking at the first 10 straight away. After that it will be as and when required.

 

[rugby then work]

I believe they are looking at the first 10 straight away. After that it will be as and when required.

Is there an echo in here?

 

[SirSaltyHelmet]

.....here...

 

[Mug?]

official

official

The report is up and just to echo the echo it does say 10 prediction for first six months....
President report indicates it was written by a techie, poor grammmer splelling (did you see what I did there?), focus on techie stuff rather than secondary duties.DT_Xtremez_14:
Good luck all.

 

[Cashew]

Some very interesting posts in this thread!

Some good points made and raised, a few not so good points, a couple of points factually incorrect,
and definetly a few anal views with regards 90 SU, 1st RO and SJAR/Promotion process.

Promotion boards are always going to cause controversy, its the nature of the beast. In the majority I would say that the board gets it right! You have to remember that the difference from being no 1 on the list apposed to being the last one on the list is minimal, therefore it is imperitive that as individuals we do our outmost to ensure that we tick as many boxes as possible, primary, deployments, associated, education, secondary, charity, sport, FD, AT....the list goes on. The more evidence that supports your high or exceptional promotion recommendation the stronger you will score on the board.

We face busy times and with an ever decreasing population, promotion will get harder across the ranks, the time has gone where you can sit on your arse and think that as long as you do your primary role and get enough seniority that promotion will eventually knock at your door.

Each year new blood will presented to the board, you have to ensure that you remain at the top of your game year in year out. I agree with alot of the comments on here with regards to personnel at 90 SU, it is no surprise that a large amount of the people picked up are from this area of the trade, it automatically ticks most of the boxes that I mentioned above.

And with regards to SJARs, when given the 5 days (which is mandatory) to read and check your report, take the full 5 days. I have written my fair share of reports now (5 years as a SNCO), i don't always get it right first time, I have changed or added things in after discussion with the subject, it comes down to good communications. My reports are always factual and an accurate account of the reporting period, I am also honest within the potential box. And a final bit of advice is to ensure that you get an MPAR, if you dont get it automaitcally from your 1st RO, hunt him down and insist on getting one! You need to know that you are on track and delivering as expected, if there are any problems with your performance this is the time for it to be highlighted and give you a fighting chance to improve or change it.

May I offer my congratulations to the successful 10 on immediate release....welcome to the SNCO cadre!

 

[zyonsbimp]

Christ on a bike we dont need that kind of thinking on this thread, paranoia rules the digital waves dont you know??

Formal request on behalf of all those that missed out this year (except me because I havent had my tapes long enough to add a thirdlol). Whether they missed out because they were too good at their primary duty, or missed out because someone is awesome at charity events, is an ex TCO or a new blue TG4 and are "proving the system works", whether they missed out because they are not a member of the mighty (lol) 90 or it is plain and simply down to they are sh!te. Stop talking common sense and giving advice whichshould be easy to see ie there will be promotions from 90 and a big chunk of them because there is a lot of our trade there!

This is not a thread for common sense!!!!

ok so now we are all clear on that, well done to those that get it this year, goodbye to those that are PVR'ing because they have had enough and good luck to all those on next years board lol

 

[sp4rks]

B grade, hmmmm, just what the hell do you need to do nowadays, three secondary duties, sorted out a seniors to juniors games night which was a complete success, boast sheet, etc, usual stuff, covering for my snec whilst he is ooa, oh well, guess i'll just start the ball rolling with resettlement now then and trying to sort myself out with a job in 2.5 years.

ho hum.

 

[4everAD]

B grade, hmmmm, just what the hell do you need to do nowadays, three secondary duties, sorted out a seniors to juniors games night which was a complete success, boast sheet, etc, usual stuff, covering for my snec whilst he is ooa, oh well, guess i'll just start the ball rolling with resettlement now then and trying to sort myself out with a job in 2.5 years.

ho hum.

Sp4rks, don't give up mate I got picked up at my 21 year point after being a Cpl for 7 years (Last 3 assesments were Rec,High,Excep so it can happen quite quick just needs a series of 3 well written SJARs, are you sure that your SJAR accurately reflects your efforts?

 

[MightyFrodo]

If it doesn’t work give it a kick.

If it doesn’t work give it a kick.

I got the kick in the slats last week; 3 high recs, well written with lots of good examples. A B grade, after spitting my dummies out I decided to get a career brief and attend an SJAR workshop. All I can say is if you've never attended the workshop, do it. I learnt more in 20 minutes than in my 6 years as a Cpl.
Oh and please stop all the 90SU rubbish we don't all walk in the front door as Cpl's then straight out the back door as Sgt's. There are some of us that have to work hard to get a good write up, and there are some who just have to kiss the correct butts to get one, but this happens throughout the Air Force.

 

[sp4rks]

My last 5 assessments were Exc, Exc, Exc, High (Due to being ****ed off at being one of those in the pot before the number cut - quickly followed by a career brief which told me nothing) , then posted and got an Exceptional after ONLY 7 MONTHS in post, and that was down to sheer bloody hard work and pushing as hard as i could.

Incidentally my three secondary duties are, Charities, SIF/JRM and Broadband Manager, two of which i need Cash handling for.

My last assessment showed up quite a lot of the work i had done to improve things for the section, and essentially did reflect the hard work i put in.

I've since slept since my last post and am still deciding whether i go for one last push or just chill out and think of No.1.

Will look into one of those SJAR writing courses, see what i can do to improve things.

Cheers

M

 

[4everAD]

My last 5 assessments were Exc, Exc, Exc, High (Due to being ****ed off at being one of those in the pot before the number cut - quickly followed by a career brief which told me nothing) , then posted and got an Exceptional after ONLY 7 MONTHS in post, and that was down to sheer bloody hard work and pushing as hard as i could.

Incidentally my three secondary duties are, Charities, SIF/JRM and Broadband Manager, two of which i need Cash handling for.

My last assessment showed up quite a lot of the work i had done to improve things for the section, and essentially did reflect the hard work i put in.

I've since slept since my last post and am still deciding whether i go for one last push or just chill out and think of No.1.

Will look into one of those SJAR writing courses, see what i can do to improve things.




Cheers

M

Can only think that the write ups didn't support the Exceps you were getting, in no way a criticism of you, just that the write up has to be full of exceptional examples of your performance. In my experience examples of you actually doing the job of the rank above are the best (As long as you are doing it well of course). I think going to an SJAR writing course will give you the tools/knowledge of what the board are looking for, this in turn will help you to ensure that your 1st RO gives you the write up to back up/explain his recommendation.

 

[XVR RA RA RA]

don't give up mate I got picked up at my 21 year point

I did write a reply asking what's the point? But after the 12th line of why there's no incentive anymore, it got a bit depressing. Last one out the RAF turn the lights off.

 

[Call me Mr]

My last 5 assessments were Exc, Exc, Exc, High (Due to being ****ed off at being one of those in the pot before the number cut - quickly followed by a career brief which told me nothing) , then posted and got an Exceptional after ONLY 7 MONTHS in post, and that was down to sheer bloody hard work and pushing as hard as i could.Incidentally my three secondary duties are, Charities, SIF/JRM and Broadband Manager, two of which i need Cash handling for.My last assessment showed up quite a lot of the work i had done to improve things for the section, and essentially did reflect the hard work i put in.I've since slept since my last post and am still deciding whether i go for one last push or just chill out and think of No.1.Will look into one of those SJAR writing courses, see what i can do to improve things.CheersM

I'm in a similar position, 10 years as a Cpl, 22 months to go until my exit date (with a full pension BTW) switched off a long time ago, no secondary duty, rarely do any work, always try to do anything to get out the office early, definately make sure people know i'm not interested and still an A grade, jesus what's a guy got to do to be a B grade these days?

 

[sp4rks]

I'm in a similar position, 10 years as a Cpl, 22 months to go until my exit date (with a full pension BTW) switched off a long time ago, no secondary duty, rarely do any work, always try to do anything to get out the office early, definately make sure people know i'm not interested and still an A grade, jesus what's a guy got to do to be a B grade these days?

Thanks CMM, without meaning to sound like i'm having a dig (cos i'm not) that kind of proves the system is complete bollox. How does someone who tries end up as a B and someone who doesn't become an A.

Either you're lucky as hell or i'm trying too hard.

lol.